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Mandela:'Long live the Cuban Revolution and Comrade
Fidel Castro.' - U.S.'Threat to World Peace'
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| Sep 12, 2002 - 3:27 PM ET
| Reuters
Posted on 09/13/2002 2:51:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
CAPE TOWN (Reuters) - South African statesman Nelson Mandela urged the United States on Thursday to act only through the United Nations in its campaign against Iraq after a report in which he branded the U.S. a threat to world peace.
"Everybody who wants peace and stability in the world will respect the world body," he told reporters in Cape Town. "All its members (should) respect the United Nations charter. They don't do anything which might be disturb peace and stability."
President Bush issued a ringing challenge to the world body over Iraq on Thursday, saying if it did not force President Saddam Hussein to disarm and stop backing terrorism then "action will be unavoidable."
In an interview with Newsweek magazine on Monday, Mandela criticized the United States for acting unilaterally and undermining the United Nations as a forum for settling international disputes. He said hardline U.S. policies aimed to please American oil and arms companies.
"If you look at those matters, you will come to the conclusion that the attitude of the United States of America is a threat to world peace," the 84-year-old African statesman said in the interview, which appears on Newsweek's Web Site.
Asked on Thursday if he believed a U.S. attack on Iraq could undermine world peace, the Nobel peace prize laureate said: "Oh most certainly, there is no doubt."
The United Nations imposed sanctions on Iraq after its invasion of Kuwait and imposed U.N. weapons inspectors on the country after the Gulf War. The inspectors left in 1998 ahead of a U.S.-British bombing campaign carried out in the name of forcing greater inspections compliance from Iraq.
PLEASING OIL MAGNATES
Bush and his top aides have accused Iraq of seeking weapons of mass destruction, saying it poses a danger to the Middle East region and the West. Iraq denies the charges.
"It is clearly a decision that is motivated by George W. Bush's desire to please the arms and oil industries in the United States of America," Mandela said in the Newsweek article.
Nearly every country in the world, with the exception of Britain and Israel, has expressed grave misgivings about a pre-emptive attack on Iraq and want prior approval by the 15-nations U.N. Security of any military action.
"On what basis must he (Bush) ignore the considered opinion of world leaders who are members of the United Nations and respect their charter," Mandela said in Cape Town after a 25th anniversary memorial event for slain black activist Steve Biko.
The statesman also warned that if the United States ignored the Security Council it would "introduce chaos in international relations and that must be condemned in the strongest terms."
Mandela championed the fight against white minority rule and emerged from 27 years in apartheid jails to become South Africa's first black president from 1994 to 1999.
During his presidency, Mandela's close ties to Cuba's Fidel Castro and Libya's Muammar Gaddafi irked Washington.
Mandela earlier told Newsweek that while it was not his personal view, others believed there was an element of racism behind Washington's unilateral policies.
"Many people say quietly, but they don't have the courage to stand up and say publicly, that when there were white (U.N.) secretaries-general you didn't find this question of the United States and Britain going out of the United Nations," he said.
"But now that you've had black secretaries-general like...Kofi Annan, they do not respect the United Nations. They have contempt for it," Mandela added.
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; harpseal; Snow Bunny; archy; StriperSniper; hchutch; ppaul; Mudboy Slim; ...
To: Tailgunner Joe
SHEEEESH...Mandela's a Communist!! End of story...MUD
To: Cincinatus' Wife
Necklace Mandela's Megalomania: End Near for Marxist Marionette
Necklace Mandela currently aiding butcher Mugabe as he ethnically cleanses Zimbabwe.
Mandela contributes to the harrassment, eviction, imprisonment, divestiture and murder of whites--
Mandela contributes to the certain famine and death of millions of blacks.
Mandela, comrade in arms with Castro, murderer of 100,000, premier jailer of political prisoners, the Western Hemisphere's Main Enemy of freedom.
Mandela, as fond of Qadafy's death squads killing Mugabe's black critics as he is and was of the machete slaughter of his own opponents.
Who died and made this piece of sh!t God? Karl Marx? Che Guevara?
Nelson, you may know Jesse Jackson, but the two of you don't know Jack Sh!t.
You can take your continent down the black hole of dictatorship, famine, starvation, AIDS, and poverty--
You can go help Chavez and da Silva and Fidel take Sud America down that same sewer--
. . .but the UN? You a statesman?
Gotta go with e. e. cummings when he said:
there is some shit i will not eat
To: Cincinatus' Wife
As soon as relations are normalized with Cuba, about 40 or 50 Cubans in Miami will return to Cuba, and countless thousands of Cubans now living in Cuba will migrate to the US one way or another.
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posted on
09/13/2002 4:15:25 PM PDT
by
Consort
To: PhilDragoo
Good rant.
To: goldstategop; mhking
Someone should remind Nelson Mandela if it weren't for the U.S and its support of the anti-apartheid movement, he'd probably wind up dead in prison of old age.Bingo. How much anti-apartheid support came from Cuba in comparison? How much $$ in sanctions against SA came from Cuba?
(Thanx for the ping mhking)
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posted on
09/14/2002 4:07:52 PM PDT
by
mafree
To: mafree
NELSON & WINNIE MANDELA
The communist orientation of the ANC is beyond dispute. There are many confirmations of this fact found in various publications, as well as statements by communists themselves:
"Indeed, there are close ties between the Soviet Union and the South African Communist Party, which, to a great extent, controls the ANC. Such influence began as early as 1917, the USSR now being very active in 10 Southern African nations: Namibia, Angola, Bothswana, Zimbabwe, Malawi, Lesotho, Swaziland, Mozambique, Zambia, and South Africa.
Soviet activity, of course, often assumes covert forms. The Congress of South African Trade Unions (COSATU), for instance, formed near the end of 1985, actually is a new front for the ANC...." (South Africa and the Marxist Movement: A Study in Double Standards, Panos Bardis, p. 101)
WorldNetDaily has likewise demonstrated that the ANC is a communist organization: "The misdeeds of the Soviet-sponsored African National Congress have been well chronicled. It operated under and parallel to the South African Communist Party, established in the early 1920s as the first Communist Party outside the Soviet Union."
("Atrocities of the Marxist ANC: 'Truth' commission reveals Mandela's bloody path to power," Anthony LoBaido, July 3, 2000)
In 1944, Nelson Mandela became a member of the African National Congress (ANC). In 1952, he was confined to the Magisterial District of Johannesburg, South Africa; in 1956 he was charged with high treason, tried, and acquitted. In 1961, when the ANC was outlawed, Mandela evaded arrest but was jailed in November 1962 for five years. Mandela and his fellow revolutionaries were caught red-handed with: 48,000 Soviet-made anti-personnel mines, 210,000 hand grenades, and documents showing proof of involvement of Moscow, Algeria, China, Czechoslovakia, and East Germany in financing and backing a communist revolution in South Africa. Mandela admitted his guilt, was convicted after a free and fair trial, and was sentenced to life imprisonment on June 11, 1964. He was charged under the Suppression of Communism Act and was tried between October 1963 and June 1964. During this trial, a 62-page document in Mandela's own handwriting entitled How To Be a Good Communist was offered as evidence. This was the famous Rivonia Trial, named after Johannesburgs fashionable suburb in the north, where in June and July 1963 the South African authorities found huge quantities of equipment designed for civil war.
At that time, Mandela was incarcerated not because he held unpopular political opinions (communist), but because he was convicted of 23 acts of sabotage and of conspiring to overthrow the government. The South African President P. Botha offered him freedom if he would renounce violence, but Mandela always refused the offer.
One of the most insightful descriptions of Mandela's political views is found in The Richmond News-Leader of May 2, 1986:
"The story goes that South Africa's jailed Nelson Mandela, and his wife Winnie are just your standard garden-variety moderates who want freedom for their country. But consider this. Moscow's communist party newspaper Pravda recently carried a story about Winnie Mandela, quoting her as saying: 'The Soviet Union is the torch-bearer for all our hopes and aspirations. We have learned and are continuing to learn resilience and bravery from the Soviet people, who are an example to us in our struggle for freedom, a model of loyalty to internationalist duty. In Soviet Russia, genuine power of the people has been transformed from dreams into reality. The land of the Soviets is the genuine friend and ally of all peoples fighting against the dark forces of world reaction.'
"This is not the swoony stuff of a dizzy moderate, but the disciplined ideologuese of a Soviet stooge."
Furthermore, Winnie Mandela's true colors and those of the ANC were revealed at Munsieville, on April 13, 1986, when she said: "With our boxes of matches and our necklaces ["necklacing:" a torture in which a gasoline-filled tire is placed around the neck of a victim and set ablaze], we shall liberate this country." (South African Digest, April 18, 1986, p. 324)
South Africa, meanwhile, given over by F.W. de Klerk and Pik Botha to the Marxist African National Congress, has turned into a cauldron of murder, rape, AIDS and anarchy.
Nelson Mandela has long had strong ties to the MPLA, as the Marxist Angolan regime has provided Mandela's African National Congress with a haven for its terrorist training bases.
In fact, upon his release from prison, Mandela gave a speech in Angola's capital of Luanda on May 10, 1990, in which he said: "The ANC brought young people into Angola to receive military training. This was indeed a major turning point in the history of South Africa. The progress we have made in our armed struggle is owed largely to Angola. Angola allowed us not only to receive arms from friendly countries abroad, but also allowed us to establish camp and gave us freedom to train our soldiers." ("A TRAGEDY IN ANGOLA: DeBeers, Clinton's executive order seeks to destroy anti-communist rebel movement," WorldNetDaily, January 30, 2000)
Mandela has committed numerous terrorist acts. Mandela ordered the infamous Church Street bombing, which went off at rush hour to maximize casualties of Afrikaner women, children and babies. He also told the black youth of South Africa at one point to "burn down" their schools. Mandela recently traveled to Libya and presented Qaddafi with South Africa's highest military medal.
His support of other communist dictatorships is blatant. In July 1991, Nelson and Winnie Mandela were in Cuba to celebrate the communist revolution with Fidel Castro. As Winnie referred to Cuba "as our second home," Nelson Mandela addressed the ceremony saying,
"Long live the Cuban Revolution. Long live comrade Fidel Castro... Cuban internationalists have done so much for African independence, freedom, and justice. We admire the sacrifices of the Cuban people in maintaining their independence and sovereignty in the face of a vicious imperialist campaign designed to destroy the advances of the Cuban revolution. We too want to control our destiny... There can be no surrender. It is a case of freedom or death. The Cuban revolution has been a source of inspiration to all freedom-loving people."
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posted on
09/18/2002 11:53:43 AM PDT
by
Dqban22
To: Mudboy Slim
Adolf, Fidel & Saddam by Ambassador J.W. Middendorf
09-17-2002 11:16 PM
Adolf, Fidel & Saddam
by Ambassador J.W. Middendorf
September 16, 2002 | |
Adolf Hitler was a joke. At least thats how it seemed in the late 1930s, when I was in high school.
Newsreels showed a strutting popinjay; the soothing voice-overs made fun. Everyone knew that Germany was too poor to pose a threat to anyone. Reports of a "secret" air force and submarine fleet? Media hype. Anyway, it was far away. Someone elses problem.
Three years later, I was a swabbie. My entire generation faced a deadly, uncertain future, and the world was in flames.
Fast forward to 1982. I was ambassador to the Organization of American States (OAS), and "alleged" Soviet incursions into the Western hemisphere were blithely dismissed. After all, wed "won" the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962. End of story, right?
Not really. Twenty years on, Cuba was home to more than 5,000 Soviets operating the largest intelligence-gathering network outside the Soviet Union. The Cuban military had $1 billion-worth of new equipment, including more than 200 MIG fighters. Cuban agents were training and equipping Communist cadres in Nicaragua and El Salvador.
And, now, Cuban workers were building a 9,000-foot runway in Grenada. To encourage tourism, they said. But the project was far too big for an island with fewer than 1,000 hotel rooms. Grenadas hotels would be swamped by any more than two 747 planeloads of tourists in the same week.
Why such an ambitious effort? Heres a hint: the operational range of a Cuban MIG fighter was 690 miles. With bases in Nicaragua, Havana and Grenada, the Soviet aircraft could threaten all of Latin America and interdict the vital sea-lanes of the Caribbean. Vital? At that time, more than half of all the oil imported into the United States was carried by ships passing within a few miles of Grenada.
Something had to be done, and soon. The October 1983 murder of Grenadian Prime Minister Maurice Bishop -- by his own Marxist cronies -- provoked a wave of lawlessness. And that gave the United States a plausible reason to intervene: to safeguard 700 Americans enrolled at the islands medical school.
The day after Bishop was killed, Vice President George Bush chaired a meeting of the National Security Council (NSC) where I offered this assessment: the Latins would support an invasion -- if we won quickly. I then committed to work to dissuade our southern neighbors from passing any resolutions opposing our projected strike.
Aside from Cuba, there were some 31 Latin and Caribbean states. I spoke with all of them.
Most understood the problem of Soviet encroachment but felt they couldnt deal with it. Privately, they might say, "Take them out." But publicly? "No comment." Most were hanging by a slender economic thread and would welcome aid and support from either the Soviet Union or the United States. Economic need usually trumps ideology. Someone elses problem.
Still, several of the smaller island nations proved brave enough to call for U.S. intervention two days after Bishops death. Forty-eight hours later, we launched the invasion. President Reagan didnt brief Congressional leaders until the following Tuesday, when the invasion was actually under way.
As wars go, "Operation Urgent Fury" was not very impressive. The assault force consisted of perhaps 7,000 Marines and Army troopers. Most of the island was secured by the second day.
As for our friends at the OAS, Reagans resolve had made our case. Yes, a virulent anti-American resolution was introduced. But no one -- not one nation -- would even second the motion.
The bottom line: Our action stemmed the tide of Soviet incursions in the hemisphere. That, at least, was the assessment of a former Soviet general I met at a Heritage Foundation board meeting in Moscow in the early 1990s. The Soviets, he told me, thought they had found in the Caribbean the "soft underbelly" of the United States. But Ronald Reagan gave them a big surprise in Grenada, and that, in the generals opinion, marked the turning point of the Cold War.
Fast forward once more, to 2002. A new popinjay struts. This time, in Baghdad. And now armed with weapons of mass destruction and the demonstrated willingness to use them.
Saddam Husseins most vulnerable oil-rich neighbors stand mute. They will commit only to a winner. Our European "allies" seem hesitant and appear beyond reach. Someone elses problem. Again.
# # #
In addition to his posting as U.S. Ambassador to the OAS, the writer served as Secretary of the Navy, Ambassador to the Netherlands, and Ambassador to the European Union.
Distributed nationally on the Scripps Howard wire
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posted on
09/19/2002 9:17:57 AM PDT
by
Dqban22
To: Dqban22
"...a virulent anti-American resolution was introduced. But no one -- not one nation -- would even second the motion." Who introduced the motion? Castro?!
Thanks fer the ping...interesting analogy...MUD
To: Dqban22
Thanks for the info.
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posted on
09/19/2002 8:44:06 PM PDT
by
mafree
To: Cincinatus' Wife
bttt
To: Tailgunner Joe
Bump!
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