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Democrats want to drop vote fraud plan, Bond says (Election "Reform")
St. Louis Post-Dispatch ^ | 9-6-02 | Deirdre Shesgreen

Posted on 09/06/2002 7:47:00 AM PDT by FairWitness

Edited on 05/11/2004 10:58:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON - A bill to reform elections faces trouble in Congress over provisions that would crack down on voter fraud, Sen. Christopher "Kit" Bond, R-Mo., said Thursday.

The bill was designed to address the glaring flaws exposed during the 2000 presidential election. House and Senate negotiators have deadlocked over the vote fraud issue, threatening to derail the bill even as the next election looms.


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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; pledge; reform; senate; votefraud
During negotiations in conference committee to resolve differences between the measures, Senate Democrats stripped both the House and Senate anti-vote fraud provisions out of the bill and offered the narrower bill as a potential compromise, Bond said. He said the proposal will make it "easier to vote and easier to cheat."

The anti-fraud provision passed in the Senate, and now the Democrats in committee are trying to remove it. They are beyond shameless (unfortunately, we knew that already).

1 posted on 09/06/2002 7:47:01 AM PDT by FairWitness
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To: FairWitness
Why are the Republicans screaming all over the media about this. The Democrats do not want to prevent vote fraud. Outrageous.
2 posted on 09/06/2002 7:52:38 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: FairWitness
The republican house should take the Senate bill that was passed and pass it themselves. Therefore there would be no differences between the house and senate versions, and it would have to be sent to Bush for signature.
3 posted on 09/06/2002 7:52:47 AM PDT by One_who_hopes_to_know
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To: lady lawyer
That should be why AREN'T the Republicans screaming . . . .
4 posted on 09/06/2002 7:54:02 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: One_who_hopes_to_know
Excatly
5 posted on 09/06/2002 7:54:49 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: lady lawyer
Why are the Republicans screaming all over the media about this.

I assume you meant aren't rather than are; yes they should be screaming about it. Bond will continue to do his best, but he needs help from other Republicans.

6 posted on 09/06/2002 7:55:17 AM PDT by FairWitness
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To: FairWitness
Senate Democrats want to pass a narrower bill without anti-fraud provisions

In other news: Bear Defecates In Woods; Pope Promulgates Catholic Doctines.

7 posted on 09/06/2002 7:56:12 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: One_who_hopes_to_know
The republican house should take the Senate bill that was passed and pass it themselves.

A very sensible idea. I suspect there is some "procedural rule" against it however.

8 posted on 09/06/2002 7:57:25 AM PDT by FairWitness
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To: FairWitness
I thought it was already against the law to commit fraud in an election? Since we are not going to prosecute anyone for it, we must need more laws that we won't prosecute anyone for. Just like gun control laws.
9 posted on 09/06/2002 7:57:55 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: lady lawyer
Senate Democrats want to pass a narrower bill without anti-fraud provisions, said Bond, who is a member of a House-Senate conference committee negotiating the legislation. Republicans will reject their proposal, Bond said.

The voting fraud here in STL and elsewhere should be on everyones minds as we approach the mid terms. You are right, why are they screaming??!!

10 posted on 09/06/2002 7:58:10 AM PDT by cardinal4
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To: FairWitness
Senate Democrats want to pass a narrower bill without anti-fraud provisions

Talent should ask carnahan during the debates why her party is pro-fraud.

11 posted on 09/06/2002 7:58:21 AM PDT by TroutStalker
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To: FairWitness
" Senate Democrats want to pass a narrower bill without anti-fraud provisions... "

This statement is the core of the belief systems of the Socialists, the Democrats and the Unions...
12 posted on 09/06/2002 8:00:02 AM PDT by Vidalia
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To: steve-b
In other news: Bear Defecates In Woods; Pope Promulgates Catholic Doctines.

The difference is that your two examples do what they do, unashamedly, in the open, while the Democrats do their dirty work in committee out of the eye of the public.

13 posted on 09/06/2002 8:00:59 AM PDT by FairWitness
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To: blackdog
I thought it was already against the law to commit fraud in an election? Since we are not going to prosecute anyone for it, we must need more laws that we won't prosecute anyone for. Just like gun control laws.

Good point. However, this law was going to make it necessary to show proof of identity upfront, to head off fraud before it happens (already done in some places, but needs to be done everywhere). Prosecution after the fact is also necessary, and too often ignored, but by the time you get to prosecution, the damage is already done.

14 posted on 09/06/2002 8:05:31 AM PDT by FairWitness
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To: FairWitness
Their way is for the people to vote, then rearrange the outcome to suit.

Like Mexico does it.
15 posted on 09/06/2002 8:28:48 AM PDT by RISU
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To: lady lawyer
I think that you meant to sa"Aren't".Of course"The Rats"don't want to stop voter-fraud,it's how they "win"elections!!Also,by demagogueing Social Security,Medicare etc,etc!!!They're "All Time Favotite"is:"Tax-Cuts For The Wealthy"!!!!
16 posted on 09/06/2002 8:39:46 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: bandleader
These are the people who brought us a proposal to have minorities to have more than one vote in some cases to reddress past discrimination - remember WJC's (Hill's) supreme ct nominee? A lot of dems think their end justifies any means.
17 posted on 09/06/2002 8:44:00 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: *Vote Fraud
Index Bump
18 posted on 09/06/2002 8:52:34 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: FairWitness
or some other proof of identity, such as a utility billWhat a joke. A utility bill is now proof of citizenship? It gets more absurd and hopeless every day. This tough provision, which the Dems are amazingly fighting against, would do nothing to stop the 1 million illegal voters in California, or anywhere else. You have to laugh to keep from crying. Our Republic is lost, I fear.
19 posted on 09/06/2002 9:40:05 AM PDT by Jack Black
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