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To: Bob J
Bob J, Bush could abide by the rule of law and court people. However, he plays the same old group politics. Meanwhile, it will cost us chunks of our country, our culture, as well as any chance of re-electing a future conservative. Hope rarely supercedes trends. Just remember that.
76 posted on 09/02/2002 7:20:07 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: FreedomFriend
Bob J, Bush could abide by the rule of law and court people.

Bush is part of the Executive Branch, not the Judicial.

However, he plays the same old group politics.

They've proven effective, as lousy as it is.

Meanwhile, it will cost us chunks of our country, our culture (Hmmm...)...

Prove it.

...as well as any chance of re-electing a future conservative.

I see. Handing over the largest and quickest growing demographic segment of voters to the Dems will help get conservatives elected.

Hope rarely supercedes trends. Just remember that.

No, results supercedes trends.

89 posted on 09/02/2002 7:47:18 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: FreedomFriend
It will cost us chunks of our country?????? Which ones? How?

Some may favor REASONABLE immigration restrictions. Some may favor federal assistance to states which have been unusually impacted by the immigration patterns, legal and illegal. It might even be reasonable to spread the new immigrants throughout the country as a condition of remaining here. We are all entitled to our opinions but there is a certain degree of unwarranted exaggeration that is customary among the anti-immigration crowd. There is also a certain degree of unwarranted document worship in the repetition endlessly of talk about the rule of law (which died here long, long ago) or about the Constitution which has been warped out of any semblance of the founders' intent by rogue courts run amok for generations. Once Mexicans learn English (which is a very good idea) they will instantly be better able than our judges to understand the meaning of our Constitution.

However it may vote, California is still part of the United States and quite likely to remain so. Likewise Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and their neighboring states.

It is not pandering to respect your fellow citizen of an identifiable group such as Hispanic, market your party and platform and ideas and philosophy to him or her and have the manners to ask for his or her vote.

I dare say that such a course of action IS the American way of which we are or ought to be proud. Machine gun nests and desert tank regiments on our borders to turn back (or worse) people who come here paying us the tribute of preferring our way of life to that of their native land would not be something to be proud of. Our ideas are better than liberal and leftist ideas and we ought not fear the public debate to win the Hispanic social conservatives to our cause.

There was a time when Senator Barry Goldwater (certainly no social issue conservative) told a Republican convention which nominated him in 1964: "I will fight and I know you will too until our cause has inspired the world and led the way to a tomorrow worthy of all our yesterdays."

135 posted on 09/02/2002 9:57:49 PM PDT by BlackElk
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