[WatchOutForSnakes]

So honest beliefs and principles are meaningless? The whole game is to get elected even if you have no integrity? Sorry, but I'd rather lose. I honestly believe that George Bush is a good man and wants to do what is right but he is listening to some very bad advice from his handlers. One of these days hopefully we will get a president who says "get lost" to his advisors. A president who does what is right, even if it means only 4 years in office.

[Consort]

So honest beliefs and principles are meaningless? The whole game is to get elected....

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No party can bring honesty and principles or anything else to government unless they get elected and have the power to effect changes.

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...even if you have no integrity?

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Integrity is for living our lives day in and day out; it is for governing at all levels; it is for business, for academia, international relations, etc. But it is not for politics and never was for politics and never will be for politics. Politics, like poetry, makes its own rules and parameters and that is an accepted fact the world over. The graveyard of politics is filled with aspiring politicians with integrity.

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Sorry, but I'd rather lose.

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It appears that you already have, but don't try to take the rest of us with you.

[RLK]

Sorry, but I'd rather lose. I honestly believe that George Bush is a good man and wants to do what is right but he is listening to some very bad advice from his handlers.

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If he were a MAN capable of being president, he wouldn't need handlers.

[lewislynn]

I honestly believe that George Bush is a good man and wants to do what is right but he is listening to some very bad advice from his handlers.

In other words our president is a good man with no convictions, or a good man who can't think for himself.