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Have you ever been to Saudi? I have. If so, you would agree with me and the Rand report that we should glass the place and take over the oil wells since we did all of the work in building that resource up in the first place. So no, don't rate me a Saudi fan. I'm just a plain good old fashioned laissez-faire economic system fan. It's meddling by the government and do-gooders that have caused this problem. They, as apparently you, do not understand the cause and effect of the enviro-communism of the last twenty years. We have not built a new refinery in 25 years. No exploration in ANWR even though we've proven enviromentally sound drilling is possible elsewhere in Alaska. Just now we are opening up the gulf coast of Florida for exploration. The NIMBY mentality of this country and the radical socialist agendas has caused this problem. SUVs were an inevitable backlash against the tiny POS cars being bandied about in this thread. If the market demands and people wanted econodeathtraps, they would buy them. But the market has dictated otherwise. So the automkers have to cut back shipments of SUVs and Pickup trucks to Commiefornia. No big deal. They have a huge market here in the south, and we really don't give a flying you know what about what the rest of the nation thinks or cares about it. If you think that something like this would ever pass in Texas or Florida, you're on more crack than medved the neon tree hugger.