Then along come the Luvs and their ilk.
If you go back over the thread, you'll see that many people, including myself, tried to post positively back to him, being polite, posting links (which he ignored), in general trying to keep a civil tone.
Twirps like him think we are all below him, that we're too stupid to know that smoking might harm us. They put words in our mouths, twist our meanings, and when they are ignored resort to insulting our intelligence.
As you say, we're tired of it. These people aren't gods. There's only one God that I know of and he lets me make my own decisions, right or wrong. (Well sometimes, there is that annoying inner voice that kind of brings one up short.)
We all are familiar with the negatives of smoking tobacco, and the main point is that, to us, these threads are about property rights and individual sovereignty, that the Luvs never address.
To he!! with 'em.
I admit I have done the same - I just wish it had't gotten to the level where those on our side have had no recourse but to resort to the same tactics as those of the antis.
While it has happened, it is far too rarely, that a die-hard anti will discuss the issues rationally. Regardles of what we say they counter with something off topice.
For example, as you say we are primarily speaking of private property rights, antis ignore that and say they have a right to breathe smoke-free air and no one has the right to permit it.
It borders on farce many times.
In a recent TV debate I did with an anti from NJ, talking about SHS. I gave her specific numbers from our own government regarding relative risk of lung cancer. She's going on and on about SHS exposure "CAUSES" lung cancer and that is why it has been declared a class A human carcinogen. I used the same sources of statistics that she used and showed how, according to her sources drinking whole milk has a higher relative risk for lung cancer than exposure to SHS, yet was not considered a class A human carcinogen for lung cancer. Why one and not the other was my question. Her response - "I feel like I'm talking to a memberof the Flat Earth society."
The blinders at times are a bit much.