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With their fanatical zeal, you have to wonder how far busybodies will go
Sun.Com ^ | 4 August 2002 | PAUL JACKSON

Posted on 08/05/2002 5:09:05 AM PDT by SheLion

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To: KDD
Do you want doctors encouraging cigerette smoking?

NO, we DON'T! We already KNOW that smoking might not good for us! As with ANYTHING ELSE!

And if your obese, YOUR NEXT!


81 posted on 08/05/2002 10:52:00 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: E Rocc
Health Crusaders don't approve of bars, period.

So they go in and put the bars out of business. Sounds a little immoral to me!


82 posted on 08/05/2002 10:53:55 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: MaineRebel
Believe what you like...

While I do not know what your profession might be, I suspect that neither you nor shelion are English teachers...

83 posted on 08/05/2002 10:54:18 AM PDT by Dr. Luv
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To: SheLion
Nope I meant this one--


84 posted on 08/05/2002 10:57:28 AM PDT by maxwell
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To: Dr. Luv
How true he was and how foolish of me to think otherwise...

And that's why you aren't on our puff list. For anything you throw at us, we can counteract with the truth. All you know is Junk Science, my friend!

We have researched this issue thoroughly, and the truth shall set you free!

We are a kindly bunch but your kind has turned us cranky. And no matter what you say, your going to get flamed. Sorry, but that's how it it.

If you thought you would come in here and turn our thinking around, you have another think coming.

If smoking is so bad, why don't they ban it?! It IS a legal commodity, you know. So get over it.

85 posted on 08/05/2002 11:01:19 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Dr. Luv
As an oncologist, I see a daily parade of death of both the young and old caused by smoking.

"As an oncologist," you should be aware that 75% of the cancer that affects the population is in nonsmokers. Granted, there are only 20,000 or so lung cancers a year in those who don't smoke and aren't around smokers, but that's still quite a lot.

86 posted on 08/05/2002 11:01:33 AM PDT by Max McGarrity
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To: SheLion
Health Crusaders don't approve of bars, period.

So they go in and put the bars out of business. Sounds a little immoral to me!

To me it's a bit more than immoral...it's money out of my pocket.

It all started with the "Hillary Clinton of the 19th Century", one Carrie Nation. This harridan, in her zeal for Prohibition, went around physically destroying the insides of bars, presumably with her broomstick. It's a shame no tavern owner apparently ever exercised his Second Amendment rights upon her.

-Eric

87 posted on 08/05/2002 11:05:20 AM PDT by E Rocc
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To: Dr. Luv
F off, idiot.
88 posted on 08/05/2002 11:09:01 AM PDT by MaineRebel
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To: SheLion
SheLion, would you add me to your puff list?
89 posted on 08/05/2002 11:09:55 AM PDT by MaineRebel
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To: Max McGarrity
"As an oncologist," you should be aware that 75% of the cancer that affects the population is in nonsmokers. Granted, there are only 20,000 or so lung cancers a year in those who don't smoke and aren't around smokers, but that's still quite a lot.

Max, good one!


90 posted on 08/05/2002 11:12:35 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Dr. Luv
I suspect that neither you nor shelion are English teachers...

Is that the best you can do?

91 posted on 08/05/2002 11:14:34 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: SheLion
"And that's why you aren't on our puff list."

That and the fact that my IQ is over 100...

92 posted on 08/05/2002 11:16:18 AM PDT by Dr. Luv
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To: Dr. Luv
Lung cancer is the number one cause of cancer deaths in both men and women in the United States.

Deaths, yes. The number one CANCER in the United States, not by a long shot. And why is it that more lung cancer cases end in death? Could it be because the funding supposedly going for reasearch into a cure has instead been funnelled into engineering society? The American Cancer Society spends less than 16% of its billion-dollar-budget each year on research and a fraction of that on lung cancer. When the nico-Nazis jumped on tobacco as the cause of all the ills in the world, lung cancer became the red-headed stepchild because most were allegedly self-caused. Breast cancer, on the other hand, is a politically popular cancer and gets approximately FIFTEEN TIMES the funding spent on lung cancer, so breast cancer is now far less deadly. Even though far more women GET breast cancer than GET lung cancer, far fewer of them die.

As they lie on their beds facing the inevitable, they all look up and say one thing: "Why did I do this to myself and my family?"

And when they lie on their beds facing the inevitable when they lived what they thought was a "risk-free" life, they all look up and say "How could this happen?" because you and people like you have made them believe, even if only subconsciously, they will live forever if they don't do x, y or z.

93 posted on 08/05/2002 11:20:04 AM PDT by Max McGarrity
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To: plowhand
who kills more dr.s or cigs

Which reminds me of this article:

Doctors Are The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US, Causing 250,000 Deaths Every Year This article in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) is the best article I have ever seen written in the published literature documenting the tragedy of the traditional medical paradigm.

Doctors Are The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US, Causing 250,000 Deaths Every Year

94 posted on 08/05/2002 11:21:39 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: MaineRebel
SheLion, would you add me to your puff list?

You bet. Already done. Thank you!

95 posted on 08/05/2002 11:22:48 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Dr. Luv
That and the fact that my IQ is over 100...

Pity that your name doesn't reflect your attitude.

Anyway, I have added you to my list, so I won't be responding to anymore of your 14-year-old guy posts.

GROW UP!

96 posted on 08/05/2002 11:25:35 AM PDT by SheLion
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To: Dr. Luv
If my mother dying of cancer when I was 29 did not deter me, why would the claims of a cyber person whose real identity I do not know deter me at 58?

Next time listen to your friends.

97 posted on 08/05/2002 11:30:57 AM PDT by metesky
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To: Dr. Luv
"Everyone here knows that smoking is bad for your health"...Then what's to account for all the apologists on this thread? One third of the population of our country (current and ex-smokers) is at high risk for this terrible disease and for multiple other tobacco-related diseases, including cancers of the mouth, tongue, throat, larynx, esophagus, pancreas, bladder and kidney, and also at risk for coronary artery disease, peripheral artery disease, gangrene of the legs and stroke.

Let me see if I can help you understand; I may be pi$$ing on a flat rock, but we'll see. Everyone makes choices in life, be they "good" ones or "bad," and those here who you call "apologists" believe that is as it should be. We make our own choices based on our own experiences, and we don't take kindly to others trying to coerce us into living OUR lives the way THEY think is "good." Period.

I come from a long line of long-lived healthy smokers; I'm active and healthy and plan to live a long, full life. Neither my teeth nor my fingers are yellow and I'm less at risk than others I know who don't smoke but live stress-filled lives. In case you're wondering, I detest Big Tobacco--I don't use their products and encourage others to circumvent them as well--but I believe Big Government and Big Anti-Tobacco with their shoddy science and outright lies are far more dangerous to the very fabric of this country than Big Tobacco ever was.

98 posted on 08/05/2002 11:32:20 AM PDT by Max McGarrity
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To: mysterio
Hmmmm, you said in one sentence what it took me several paragraphs to say. Well done.
99 posted on 08/05/2002 11:33:46 AM PDT by Max McGarrity
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To: SheLion
Come on now folks. Let's give the good doctor the benefit of the doubt. He's just concerned about our health and well being. Why, I'm sure that he jumps on breast cancer threads and derides all those that have had an abortion. I'll bet that he chastises every obese person for not having the will power to push themselves away from the table. Oh, and let's assume that he verbally punishes all of the people that have contracted HIV and AIDS, I mean, they brought it on themselves, right? Sure, life style choices have consequences that we all should be made aware of, whether we already know these things or not. So, it is their responsibility to inform us of our blunders. It's their duty as long as they are consistent. They are consistent, aren't they?
100 posted on 08/05/2002 11:35:06 AM PDT by rwfok
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