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To: Cable225
There is no debate here, there is you getting angrier and angrier, using profanity against me, and then saying I'm not Christian because I suggest that you are a lazy parent.
Christian doesn't mean seeing something wrong and remaining silent, Christian doesn't mean being a doormat as you seem to think... We are not called to judge souls, but we are called to judge actions, and suggest corrections where necessary. You cannot talk about how a Christian should behave since you obviously haven't studied the Bible. Anyone who uses the term "judgemental" as an insult doesn't know what they're talking about. The view that children are will always do bad things so we shouldn't even try to raise them properly IS a leftist view. It's a defeatist attitude.
I am done with this conversation. You may respond, but you will be talking to yourself. Stop insulting me with profanity.
21 posted on 08/04/2002 7:12:22 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: goodieD
Stop insulting me with profanity. ----- OK, then stop insulting me with the name-calling and pretense that you are so much better than I am.

Christian doesn't mean being a doormat as you seem to think... ----- I don't know where that comes from. Did I say you were acting like a doormat? Or am I the one acting like a doormat?

You cannot talk about how a Christian should behave since you obviously haven't studied the Bible. ----- I'm certain I haven't studied the Bible to the level you have, but I'm pretty sure I have a good idea of how a Christian should behave, or strive to behave. I may not be a Christian Fundamentalist, but I'm a Catholic. I just don't remember the part about how the best way to profess the faith being hitting someone with a sledgehammer when they don't agree with you. Let's not lose sight of the fact that YOU initiated the attack.

There is no debate here, there is you getting angrier and angrier, using profanity against me, and then saying I'm not Christian because I suggest that you are a lazy parent. ----- There is no debate here because you haven't acknowledged a single thing I've said. YOU initiated the attack. YOU started the name-calling. YOU were the person that lectured me about parenting without having the slightest knowledge regarding anything about me. Additionally, I have never doubted that you are a Christian, I stated that your behavior on this thread didn't seem very "christian". There is a difference.

The view that children are will always do bad things so we shouldn't even try to raise them properly IS a leftist view. It's a defeatist attitude. ----- I'd like you to point out exactly where I said that we shouldn't even try to raise children properly. I'm pretty sure I did say that kids are going to be kids, make mistakes and do things we would rather they didn't. I disagreed with the "put wanted posters out" stategy the lady in this article used because I don't think she accomplished anything worthwhile. Do you really think her kids are going to stop smoking because their mom put up signs? Do you not think these kids are going to be teased unmercilessly by their friends? Do you think there will be more or less peer pressure now that signs are up all over the neighborhood? And let's not forget, the kid in question went to his mother and told her what was going on. Do you suppose her "solution" will inspire him to do that again the next time something (alcohol, drugs, sex) comes along? These are real questions, and the answers are not going to be found by "because I said so".

Anyone who uses the term "judgemental" as an insult doesn't know what they're talking about. ----- "Judgemental" generally has a negative connotation. My pastor uses it all the time, I don't think he doesn't know what he's talking about. When you open up a dialogue by telling someone you don't know from Adam that they're a leftist and a lazy parent simply because you disagree, that's being judgmental.

Hey, if you don't want to respond, don't. I just think discussing the issue (i.e., the wanted posters of the kids) and the causes/solutions is more enlightening than being lectured.

You may respond, but you will be talking to yourself ----- I feel like I've been doing that already.

27 posted on 08/05/2002 9:11:48 AM PDT by Cable225
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