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To: toupsie
That gay lisp is something that a straight man could never recreate.

I see you've never been on a construction site when gays were being mocked by heterosexuals. Its easy to recreate because it is an affectation, not a genetic disorder.

I know men who left the gay lifestyle whose affectations vanished with their homosexuality.

I also know men who are by all outward appearances quite effeminate yet have 6 kids and solid marriages and no homosexual inclination whatsoever.

So effeminate is not = homosexual.

It might not exactly be a "choice" but neither is homosexuality in any way genetic.

7 posted on 07/29/2002 12:34:32 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
I believe there might be a small percentage of people who are "born" homosexual due to problems with the X and Y chromosomes or having an XXY pattern. Also due to lack of proper hormonal developments in the womb. That is, caused by genetic disorders with the symptom of same-sex-attraction.
I also believe that there is a percentage of homosexuals who "imprinted" their condition early in life, before age five, who would be difficult if not impossible subjects for converting to normalcy.
But I believe there's an even larger number of "made" homosexuals by abuse, those that could be living ordinary happy lives if it wasn't for all the "gay pride" and "gay is okay" even "preferable" propaganda because all of a sudden you're in a protected and vaunted minority and that makes you a better person. But it certainly won't make you happier.
42 posted on 07/29/2002 1:32:34 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: Polycarp
I can agree with what you said about some men who sound effeminate, but have a wife and kids. We had a couple of high school teachers who fit this description. They had feminine mannerisms, and a feminine way of talking, but were married men with children. There was never any scandal about them and their male students.

Now I realize that some will be in the closet about it, especially since they were in that high school 26 yrs. ago. Coming out of the closet simply wasn't done! If they were gay, most people didn't know about it! There were also female teachers who talked tough, and were scarier than these two male teachers were. We had a female gym teacher who sounded like an old drill sergeant she had a gravely voice! She didn't look masculine, not particularly. But this lady was married with about 5 or 6 kids!

I've had a few teachers who I suspect could have been gay, but I never would have asked anyone about it, even out of curiosity. I didn't know if one of them could be a family member, or aquaintence, it might get back to them, and they would be insulted. They wore plain, almost masculine clothes. Their hair was very, very short, and their voices sounded deep. But at the same time, I've seen women that looked very feminine, sounded feminine, and were known, or suspected lesbians; so you never know!
95 posted on 07/29/2002 3:26:15 PM PDT by dsutah
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