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Homosexual Researchers Debunk ‘Born Gay’ Urban Legend
Traditional Values Coalition ^ | 7/30/02 | Traditional Values Coalition

Posted on 07/29/2002 12:16:04 PM PDT by Polycarp

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To: yendu bwam; scripter
"NAMBLA is pure evil."

So is it's lesbian counterpart.

201 posted on 07/30/2002 8:57:13 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: not-an-ostrich
Howdy

What an odd post! You state that scientific evidence will be found to justify the unfounded notion that homosexuals are utterly powerless to shape their destiny.

You're entitled to your opinion of course, but it seems odd to state as an article of faith that human beings are incapable of moderating or changing their preferences and behaviors.

I respectfully submit that the record of history is replete with instances of human beings surmounting far greater challenges than sexual orientation.

Humanity, which can reshape its environment, rocket across the heavens, and unlock the most powerful forces of nature, slaves to our appetites?

What a depressing notion!

202 posted on 07/30/2002 9:49:57 AM PDT by MoscowMike
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To: scripter
"Wow. I've never heard of The Pedophilia/Pedophile Education Web Site Mirror..."

I found the link on the lesbian pedophilia web site ("Butterfly Kisses") "Links" page.

203 posted on 07/30/2002 11:18:28 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: mille99
"... since I'm not a hate-filled hysterical nut job"

Indeed!

208 posted on 07/30/2002 3:16:32 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: toupsie
Just because the die was cast emotionally doesn't mean that it had been genetically.

If they were considered 'sissies', then how much chance did they have dating? We're they affirmed by the other guys in their manhood? How did you treat them, for example?

Men need affirmation and if their Dad's tagged em as sissies for example then it'll either force to try superhard to please their Dad or they'll just give up (a self-fullfilling prophecy). That's just an example.

On the whole I'd bet that they intellectually had given up on having 'normal' relations and when folks are craving love and affection (as every human does), then they WILL get their needs met one way or another.

They just chose an inappropriate method to get that 'love need' met. And yes, those who visit prostitutes or have illicit relationships are choosing inappropriate methods do too. Big time.

Don't think God descriminates against folks doing homosexual acts only. From what I've learned, He hates all sin (lying, murder, selfishness, etc.... it's a fair size list and one we are all acquainted with).

So please save your speech calling all of those who believe in an absolute almighty and HOLY God as 'homophobes' and Nazis. etc.

Personally I think what was posted on their website about debunking that is probably dead-on, however it's not gonna make that much of a difference. I completely understand with trying to combat what society considers 'a given' and if the facts really got out there, then they'd view homosexuality much different.

Regrettably, mankind is a rebel and at a human's core is the desire to do 'what we want' and not to submit to God's ways. And consequently when an issue comes along that deals with folks living hedonistically and sinning against an almighty God... well unfortunately our culture as it stands today ain't gonna have much trouble making up their mind. Folks don't want to be told what to do.

It's gonna take changing the hearts and minds of folks one at a time and over a massive scale. And who knows how many folks will fall for the lies and fall into that 'gay' world in the mean time. What a tragedy.

212 posted on 07/30/2002 3:45:28 PM PDT by blue jeans
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To: RAT Patrol
re: “What ‘causes’ homosexuality?”… then the ONE and ONLY truthful answer is: NOBODY KNOWS. “....All behavior is a combination of genetics, environment and choice.

I think you're right on. However in this case it can be simplified. I'd submit that it's simply the need for love (both physical and emotional) and acceptance. You gotta admit... those are two very powerful drives in a human.

213 posted on 07/30/2002 3:48:42 PM PDT by blue jeans
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To: mille99
how much you don't know and do have to fabricate

And what exactly have I fabricated cupcake?

214 posted on 07/30/2002 3:58:10 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: blue jeans
I think you're right on. However in this case it can be simplified. I'd submit that it's simply the need for love (both physical and emotional) and acceptance. You gotta admit... those are two very powerful drives in a human. You make an excellent point.
215 posted on 07/30/2002 4:02:25 PM PDT by RAT Patrol
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To: mille99
Oooops...another bogus link.

Try doing a search on Google and choose the link that says “Butterfly Kisses - Celebrating Love Between Women and Girls”. Not very bright are you?

216 posted on 07/30/2002 4:08:15 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: mille99; Clint N. Suhks; scripter; yendu bwam
"Again, total CRAP. Just a bunch of psycho-Religious Right propaganda to prop up their hysteria."

Again, from Google (you really could have done your own search):

Butterfly Kisses - Celebrating Love Between Women and Girls
... [ Introduction | News | Library | Speaking
Out | Media Guide | Links | Contacts ] The ...
home.uni-one.nl/hostroom/supergirl/ - Similar pages

It's a Lesbian Pedophila web site. Click on the link above. You'll see that the site has moved. The host's email address is on the page -- email them and ask them for the new address if you want to see it for yourself. Better hurry though, because they have a notice up stating that the page Google links to will be closed on Aug 1.


"Lesbians, a vast majority of which have been victims themselves of sexual abuse by males, would be the first to string up a child-molester."

Unless the child-molester happened to be a fellow lesbian. Then it's celebrated.


"It always amazes me the dishonest links so-called Christians will go to in trying to convince more intelligent, rationally thinking people to adopt their hysteria and hatred."

What's even more amazing is the hysterical response of the homosexual community when a person or an organization discovers more homosexual perversion and points it out to people who want to protect their families. How DARE we expose the homosexual agenda. Or a lesbian pedophila web site. BTW, I had asked you to comment on the "wholesome activities" taking place in the Metropolitan Community Church. How come every time we turn around there's always more filth exposed in the homosexual community -- in the churches, in the schools, and on the Internet?

As for the rest of your post, I leave you to wallow in it:

"F***ing hypocrits, everyone. How many lesbians do you even know? I'll bet you're in close contact with more than you think.....because in your ignorance and idiotic nightmare world, you think they all look like truck-driving deisel dykes.

Stupid a$$hole.


217 posted on 07/30/2002 4:34:50 PM PDT by EdReform
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