Homosexual Researchers Debunk ‘Born Gay’ Urban Legend

Traditional Values Coalition ^ | 7/30/02 | Traditional Values Coalition

[lentulusgracchus]

Ah....how inconvenient facts can be.

Yes, they can. Which ones are you having trouble with?

[MAWG]

How so?

[lentulusgracchus]

Good links..... bumping here......BTTT.

[not-an-ostrich]

Toupsie you are so right. I knew my beloved nephew was going to be gay when he grew by the time he was 4 years old.

[not-an-ostrich]

No scientific basis yet but there will be as studies continue.

[lentulusgracchus]

Pedophilia is a male problem, whether its victims are young boys or (the much more) likely young girls.

Pedophiles are more male than female by a ratio of 10:1, but female peds and ephebophiles do exist -- Mary Kay LeTourneau, Paula Poundstone are just two of the more recent cases. How many girls' gym coaches have initiated the next generation of sapphic girls? Yes, Virginia, there is a problem with female ephebophiles.

The men who act out are mostly heterosexual and prey on girls. Married men usually pick on teenaged or prepubescent girls. But the homosexual men who are not strictly pedophiles but ephebophiles (pederasts) are much more active than the hets, so that the numbers of boys molested by men is close to that of the number of girls molested.

And the boys who are hit on by men don't have to be "gay" themselves....it's a truism of male sexuality, that men don't care about the orientation of their sex partner, as long as he/she comes across. Hence the pederastic expression, "I'm going to skin some chicken tonight!"

[lentulusgracchus]

They flaunt their sexual choices in order to force their views on dissenting adults.

I have a serious problem from the outset with anyone who thinks that the 5% have a moral right to mug the 95% and whip them into line using lies and bullyragging. Particularly when they're allied with the liberal mainstream press, which has been "out" on the issue since at least 1994, when the newsmagazines launched a major propaganda offensive built around the release of the Tom Hanks movie, Philadelphia. Which its creator admitted in an interview was a propaganda piece.

[Aquinasfan]

If homosexuality is "unnatural" why do we see it in nature? I remember my neighbor's bird dogs when I was growing up that seemed naturally inclined to bugger each other when given the chance.

Humans are rational. Dogs aren't. Some people dehumanize themselves when they act like dogs. But that doesn't make their behavior rational.

[Aquinasfan]

Here is a concept foreign to many on this forum: the function of sex is pro-creation. Its dictated by nature, just as biology dictates that life begins at conception.

Simple questions I like to ask to get people thinking about the intrinsic evils of "birth-control" and unnatural sex acts are: "What other bodily system do people deliberately damage? Would a sane person blind himself? Cut off his hand?" "Would a sane person try to eat a meal with his ears? Stick a finger in his eye?"

We regard these things as obviously wrong and unnatural, yet why do we use a different standard when it comes to ________?

[Clint N. Suhks]

Bullsh!t! If your argument is so valid, why do you have to post bogus links? Going to the site you've hot linked leads to a site for "Heterosexual Rights", obviously a website for like-thinking hysterical idiots. There is no "lesbian pedophilia problem", as evidenced by the sheer lack of crime statistics to support your lying-sack-of-sh!t claim.

The web site changes URL’s constantly. That is a page directly from Butterfly Kisses website, I’ve seen it as have many others. Sorry to burst your bubble it’s all true, but I see you can’t handle the truth very well. EdReform’s integrity is always above board, too bad you can’t say the same. You’re pathetic and nothing more than a disrupter.

[ZULU]

God Bless You!!

[ZULU]

God Bless You!!

[scripter]

There is no "lesbian pedophilia problem...

As recently said, the link changes. Here's another link that doesn't change. Now, what were you saying? Whoops. Looks like your post just got deleted.

[yendu bwam]

I respectfully disagree. We don't have heterosexual pride parades but the gays have gay pride parades. It's my business when they behave outrageously in public. They flaunt their sexual choices in order to force their views on dissenting adults. They have an agenda and I disagree with flaunting ANY sexual choices in public. Their flagrant sexual displays in public are meant for shock value. Btw, I have a brother who is gay. I love him dearly. And he has personal dignity. He and his friends have never "displayed" themselves in public.

We happened to be driving through New York City once and got intertwined with a gay rights parade. While we were stuck in traffic and forced to watch, including my three children, men in string bikinis on floats acting out anal intercourse. Then came a giant phallic condom float. And so on, and so on. (We didn't see a NAMBLA float, but I understand it's often there.) Gays have the right to engage in the most perverted kinds of sexuality if they want (though they endanger themselves, and rarely show concern for the others with regard to the manifold diseases they spread around). But to showcase such on the streets of New York? The society's gone mad. I resent this kind of behavior. I resent that my children saw it. I resent the fact the millions of other innocent children see it. Gays should be ashamed of themselves when they do this. But of course they're not. When you believe that having anal intercourse with scads of anonymous partners (a very common gay practice, according to CDC statistics), there's little to be ashamed about.

[A. Pole]

"are several consistent factors that contribute to the emergence of homosexuality: gender confusion in childhood, a failure to internalize maleness, and sexual abuse by a same-sex predator. "

So, what are we going to do about it?

Invite predators to teach diversity in public schools? Make them scouting instructors?

[EdReform]

"The web site changes URL’s constantly."

Indeed, the address did change, almost certainly from all the publicity the site was given on Free Republic and in the WorldNetDaily article. I documented the address change in reply #93 of the thread Meet 'Women's Auxiliary of NAMBLA':

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To: scripter

Hey Scrip -- looks like the perverts are on the run (or at least they had to move to a new address):

 

23 August 2002

Butterfly Kisses has moved to a new address.

bkisses@ziplip.com

93 posted on 7/23/02 1:46 PM Pacific by EdReform

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Of course if one were to do a search for "Butterfly Kisses" on Google, the following would result:

Butterfly Kisses - Celebrating Love Between Women and Girls
... [ Introduction | News | Library | Speaking
Out | Media Guide | Links | Contacts ] The ...
home.uni-one.nl/hostroom/supergirl/ - Similar pages

Before the address change, I also successfully linked to the lesbian pedophilia web site via link provided by Google. What INOORH has posted on the International Organization of Heterosexual Rights web site are the contents of some of the pages. I can tell you that there were a large number of lesbian pedophilia links and and some of the stuff was pornographic in nature. No surprises there.

In the thread An UPDATE for "Womens Auxillary of NAMBLA", INOORH offered to supply the "backdoor address" to the "Butterfly Kisses" web site. I've emailed INOORH with that request. And you're right Clint, many people did see the lesbian pedophila web site before it moved.

Millie, there is a lesbian pedophilia problem and it's currently being investigated and documented. Squealing about it won't change that fact.

Parents should be suspicious of adult women who insist on spending excessive amounts of time with their daughters. The "Butterfly Kisses" web site had shown that lesbian pedophila is alive and well.

[yendu bwam]

Parents should be suspicious of adult women who insist on spending excessive amounts of time with their daughters. The "Butterfly Kisses" web site had shown that lesbian pedophila is alive and well.

I saw some sort of program on Cher, and it was noting that Cher, on her many stage trips and such, left her daughter (Chastity) with a women caretaker. It turned out the caretaker was lesbian, and initiated Cher's daughter into lesbian sex (while the daughter was still quite young). Cher's daughter today is a confirmed lesbian. The result, I believe, of a determined lesbian molester.

[EdReform]

In the "Speaking Out" section of the "Butterfly Kisses" web site, there were several posts that reported on similar initiations of young girls (in the 8 to 12 year-old range). One was about the initiation of a ten year old girl by her friend's mother. The article was entitled something like "First Time" and it went into touch-by-touch pornographic detail of the affair. I can tell you it was absolutely sick!

Homosexual pedophila, both "gay" and "lesbian", is now a serious problem. While it is true that many children being abused by homosexuals are teenagers, the number of younger children affected is increasing rapidly. And yes, heterosexual pedophilia is a problem, as can be seen from the following web site:

The Pedophilia/Pedophile Education Web Site Mirror

What is of great concern is that there are people who are trying to "normalize" this filth, as documented in reply #14 in the thread An UPDATE for "Womens Auxillary of NAMBLA".

[yendu bwam]

What is of great concern is that there are people who are trying to "normalize" this filth

These are truly evil people who are doing this. NAMBLA is pure evil.

[scripter]

Wow. I've never heard of The Pedophilia/Pedophile Education Web Site Mirror. Here's an excerpt from the above site:

The bottom line is pedophiles must no longer be victims of hate-crimes and censorship for their beliefs. We must unite and stand against intolerance until we are accepted like gays are. My being a pedophile is simply a sexual-orientation, nothing more.

Some of us have been concerned about the above worldview for over a decade. Just a few months ago there were gay folks on FreeRepublic stating the above would never be accepted. I'm not saying it's accepted now, but in reading the above it's clear they want acceptance and it's just a matter of time before non-thinking folks start believing the lies of pedophiles. Maybe now some gays will realize the dangers in basing one's identity on "sexual-orientation". I doubt it, but you never know.