[Gelato]

When and exactly WHERE, speciffically, did candidate Bush claim that he was going to bring this nation " back " to honoring the Constitution

All I can say to that is: that explains a lot.

Every president, from Washington on down, has said those words. They didn't all do so; not even the FFs.

You might want to do a little more reading into this nation's history before coming to that conclusion. Indeed, the office of president has traditionally been so limited that, until Wilson came along, the president didn't even suggest legislation to Congress. Wilson bent the rules by arguing the standard Progressive line of a "living constitution," and then FDR took this as a license to revolutionize the presidency away from the constitution.

That's the kind of thing I thought we were all fighting against.

[nopardons]

Oh gee, and Lincoln's getting rid of Habeus Corpus and a few other such things, don't count ? It's late, and you are just so damned fixated on your own POV, that you have disavowed all else. I can't bring you up to speed; as it would be an utter waste of bandwidth.

BTW, your silly : " All I can say to that is : that explains a lot " , doesn't 1) refute anything that I have stated. 2)is just a throw away line, and is irrelivant to this debate. 3) is such a pointless non secquitor, that it defies reason. 4) ruins the rest of your stap at refutation. LOL

Thomas Jefferson did NOT even ask for a Congressional Declaration of War, against the Barbary Pirates. That's just for starters, and to give you something to mull over. LOL There's SO very much more ... including things that George Washington did !