KL's response:
Well, not entirely. That's the Libertarian line. The conservative line is to have the smallest, most effective government possible -- not to triumph completely over "government's invasive nature".
Pod's rational response to KL:
No conservative i know is in favor of invasive government. And, I am hardly a libertarian.
What crap. 'Pod
There was a reason "government's invasive nature" is in quotes, O Ye of Little Debate. The conservative line IS: Small, effective government. That means the police get to search your house if they have a warrant or probable cause. That's invasive. Conservatives support it. Conservatives support a ban on partial-birth abortions. That would be considered by some "invasive". The Government, by its very existence, is invasive. They make you pay taxes. State governments require tests to take driver's license. And so on, ad infinitum. Therefore to "triumph over the Government's invasive nature" is to triumph over the Government and advocate Libertarianism, which is certainly valid, and at worst, complete anarchy, which I suppose might be valid for some posting to what seems to be a pretty suspect thread. I advocate limiting the invasiveness of government. I'm not particularly thrilled by "TIPS"; but I don't see it as a mortal threat to the Republic. You may "BS" me all you like, but you're all over the map, and an awful debater. --KL