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NC Gov Mike Easley (D): "Four-year-olds don't have but one chance to be 4."
Charlotte Observer ^ | July 25, 2002 | SHARIF DURHAMS

Posted on 07/25/2002 7:00:57 AM PDT by jern

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To: Gritty
Lots of mint juleps on the ol' veranda allows one to pass the long hot summahs in the relative comfort of a comatose state comparable with a beah's hibernation in wintah. It's bettah than aiuh condishoning.
41 posted on 07/25/2002 8:34:14 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell
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To: BillyBoy
I'll vote for snyder in the primary, but I dont see either of them winning over Dole. As for being a RINO, i dont lay claim to a party, but yet a principle of small government. IMHO party loyalty is utterly ridiculous. If someone will support smaller government, I will support them. If someone supports larger, more intrusive government I will not. It is as simple as that. I dont care what party they belong to.
42 posted on 07/25/2002 8:36:09 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: BillyBoy
"Jim Parker and Jim Synder are both REAL Republicans running for the U.S. Senate from North Carolina...of course I don't see a RINO like yourself lifting a finger to support or promote any of them. Hmmm."

The funny thing is I don't see any other North Carolinians calling Dolt out to a streetfight over the lies she has told in her campaign ads. Remember the claim that she worked in a textile mill recently, and the one that her mother lives with her? How many North Carolinians do we see lined up to demand she either retract or provide the proof to support her fraudulant claims?

IMHO, anyone who would endorse or support Dole is no less guilty of being complicit to a lie, and deserves the respect of a liar.

Needless to say, WHATEVER is across from Dole, it/he/she will have my vote and if N.C. voters blindly put her in, we deserve all the deception she can dole out....

43 posted on 07/25/2002 8:45:50 AM PDT by azhenfud
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To: Constitution Day
I love Hedley! Don't care much for "Mike" though. (Did he honestly make that statement?)
44 posted on 07/25/2002 8:51:54 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Mike-o-Matic
Very impressive, isn't it?
45 posted on 07/25/2002 8:54:45 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin; doglot
(Did he honestly make that statement?)

If you mean Hedley - no that was the Gov. LePetomane in the movie.
(can you tell I have it on DVD?)

I guess Mike Easley is a bigger idiot than I thought.... "don't have but one chance".
Our publik skuls at werk!

I won't be back on FR until tomorrow probably.
Have to go home & keep my daughter who is sick, then go to the dentist AND take my dog to the vet!
Whew!

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doglot
Thanks for those links.

Since I had to leave early, I had no time to post them.
Will try tomorrow.

CD

46 posted on 07/25/2002 9:07:49 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: FreeTally
Ridiculous-not in the rational world. What is ridiculous is sex Ed. at four, teaching babies before they even know that boys and girls are different or that they will ever be anything but an aggravation to one another, that it is alright to prefer the company of ones own kind-they all do anyway and have not the slightest inkling of the Pleasure, committment and responsibilities those differences entail.

THey don't need perverted adults telling them at this early age, that their abhorance for the opposite sex and comradery with their own, means they are homosexuals(a condition they can't comprehend-because they haven't even experienced hetrosexuality or puberty) and that perversion is just fine and normal.

We don't need the same perverts teaching the boys and girls in higher grades who are reaching puberty with their normal sexuality intact, that just like chihuahua's in heat, they are slaves to their hormones and all they can do is give into it and use birth control. This has brought us Earlier pregnancies among teens, in a society that demands higher education than ever-into the early twenties at least, just to assure survival level wages.

If we had any real adults left at decision making levels in this moral and mentallly deficient society-starting school at seven years of age and finishing formal education around thirty would be the norm. The sexes would be separated all the way through school and abstenience would be demanded and varience there from would be condemned instead of celebrated.

Pigs would fly, Muslims would love Israeli's, productivity would be rewarded, sloth would be punished, and liberals would be infected with GeorgeWashingtonitis.

Let only the suicidal hold their breath waiting.
47 posted on 07/25/2002 9:22:32 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell
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To: Constitution Day
Daughter sick, dog to vet, CD to dentist-When it rains it pours.

May tommorrow dawn upon a healthy CD family. (I include the dog-our chihuahua is surely part of our family) If your dental appointment is a root canal-may it not be the Erie, Suez, Panama.............................................., if it is, mashed potatoes are not really that bad,...trust me.

48 posted on 07/25/2002 9:36:11 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Honest, I really meant Tomorrow.
49 posted on 07/25/2002 9:37:50 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell
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To: FreeTally
And they would graduate when they are what, 20? Ridiculous. What's the big rush? A class of four year olds is nothing more than glorified daycare.

Logically, you could enroll a kid as soon as he's potty trained....and he'd graduate even sooner.

50 posted on 07/25/2002 9:41:50 AM PDT by JessicaDragonet
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To: JessicaDragonet
I went off to a private, half-day kindergarten at four. There were 3 kids smaller than I in our house, and Mom didn't realize it was okay to keep me home; she figured that since I was reading, writing, and working math, perhaps I should try school.

I went to the first day, came home, sighed, and expressed relief that THAT was over.

She told me I had to go back the next day.

I was shocked.

Now, 25 years later, we've all learned a lot... my youngest brothers have schooled at home, we teach at home with our kids, and Mom says had she realized it was legal to school at home back then, she never would have sent her children "into the world" at all, preferring to keep us with her and explore the world together!

Government school simply cannot be expected to adapt to the individuality of our children. It is no surprise that these programs are moving toward younger and younger children: catch them when they're formative, and you stand a better chance of erasing that individuality, which makes them much easier to handle in large groups. No preschool would have met my need to read at three. No Jr. K program would have nurtured my daughter's desire to bake and cook REAL food at 3. No first grade classroom that I've seen would tolerate her desire to TALK about everything, and ask endless questions, and try new things.

By the by (proud Mom moment), she just wrote her first book. It's about flowers, called "The Lilexe" (say it phonetically, and you get it), and is officially "Rot.Bi.Elizzabeth" Even has a review section at the end. (And, I'm impressed... I couldn't spell our name until I was nearly 10. LOL)

Homeschooling is legal in the discussed state, too... liberate your kids from the government schools!

Regards,

51 posted on 07/25/2002 10:11:07 AM PDT by Missus
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To: rb22982
>> As for being a RINO, i dont lay claim to a party, but yet a principle of small government. IMHO party loyalty is utterly ridiculous. If someone will support smaller government, I will support them. If someone supports larger, more intrusive government I will not. It is as simple as that. I dont care what party they belong to. <<

We have several "conservatives" freepers who actually insist Bob Barr and Jesse Helms are too liberal for them, but a guy like Sen. Zell Miller (conservative rating = 60% = Olympia Snowe) is a great principled conservative who they would vote for in a heartbeat.

I guess according to their standard, Democrats are ALLOWED to be unpredictable, flip-flopping "moderates", but EVERY Republican has to vote EXACTLY like Ron Paul or he's not worthy of their (or anyone else's) support. In order words, Republicans must think EXACTLY LIKE THEM to qualify for office. This from the types who lecture everyone about "liberty" and "freedom". Yeah, a congress where all 435 members are Ron Paul CLONES because otherwise they'd be voted out. Sounds free to me.

But given the way they hold Democrats in HIGHER esteem and to much EASIER standards, it's pretty obvious as to which party these guys are members of. Many of them have even admitted it.

As for holding candidates, regardless of party, to the SAME standard of smaller government, that's fine with me if you want to. By that standard, our nominee for the U.S. Senate (and the previous two for that matter) here in "liberal" Illinois makes him far better than the Liddy Doles, John Warners, and Thad Cochrane's running for office in states with these "hoiler-than-thou" types who always scream how great their state is. His website is down because it's undergoing a facelift but I have a copy of his platform right here. See for yourself:

Jim Durkin platform

*Believe in the 2nd amendment--Respects the constiutional right of gun owners to protect themselves and their families and to enjoy recreational activities.
*Secure our national borders through strong immigration controls and provide the INS with the tools it needs to enforce our immigration laws.
*Act to immediately drastically reduce the marginal tax rates across the board as well as the capital gains tax to spur spending and investment.
*Repeal the personal alternative minimum tax that affects a growing number of middle class families with deductions like children and dependents.
*Opposes all income tax increases
*Facilitate full exploration in ANWR and other domestic sources to break our reliance on OPEC and foreign sourced oil.
*Provide real school choice through local competition with private schools so all children have access to the best quality education available.
*Reduce unnecessary federal red tape to allow parents and teachers to do their jobs with accountable local control.
*Implement a national missile defense system to protect our country against attacks from rogue nations
*Overturn unconstitutional "death penalty moritorum" proposals and enforse capital punishment laws as the only appropriate punishment for henious crimes and people like Timothy McVeigh.
*Strengthen our military and rebuild our intelligence capabilities.
*End all public funding of abortion
*Will vote for an amendment to overturn Roe v. Wade and return power to the states
*Will filibuster the Ryan-Daley O'Hare expansion backroom "deal" for its violation of states rights [right of the Illinois legislature to decide local airport issues]
*Opposed airline bailout bill
*Will fight to cut pork and give government back to the people

52 posted on 07/25/2002 10:25:13 AM PDT by BillyBoy
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To: F.J. Mitchell
I do not know what you rant has to do with me and millions of others starting private school at four years old, but I hope you caught your breath.
53 posted on 07/25/2002 10:41:59 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: Missus
I was shocked.

LOL....my son was also shocked that he had to go back AGAIN.

Great post! The first five years of a child's life should be spent with their parents. Pushing them out of the nest too soon has it's consequences. I've met third graders who are already jaded.

54 posted on 07/25/2002 10:59:58 AM PDT by JessicaDragonet
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To: jern
His order -- which puts 6,000 more at-risk 4-year-olds into classrooms and reduces class sizes statewide for kindergartners and first-graders -- will cost the state $54 million this year.

That comes to $9,000 per child. It would be cheaper to just mail the parents a check and have them go to a private preschool.

55 posted on 07/25/2002 11:21:28 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: FreeTally
Rant!-Me?, I have no problem with anyone attending a private school of their parent's choice at any age. I have lots of problems with children wrestled from their parents at earlier and earlier ages and forced into liberal government indoctrination programs. Most public educational instutions of today is completely out of touch with reality, the will of the parents, or even the belief's and ideals of normal people. WE fund public education-public education owes us an explanation for the guly between us, not the other way around.
56 posted on 07/25/2002 11:42:15 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell
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To: Tai_Chung
Wish they'd send me a $9000 check to put my 4yr old in pre-school. I'd have a nice hunk of change to contrib to her college fund...
57 posted on 07/25/2002 11:49:47 AM PDT by azhenfud
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To: Corin Stormhands
Educators know best, NOT. He is really trying to get these toddlers into the hands of the NEA quite quickly. I wish/hope parents wake up to the govt. school nightmare.
58 posted on 07/25/2002 11:56:06 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: AppyPappy
He could care less. Let's just raise property taxes, that's all. Property taxes are out of control, IMO.
59 posted on 07/25/2002 11:57:46 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: F.J. Mitchell
I'm totally against (forcibly)public funded education period. We seem to agree on the state of many public schools. I just think its silly that some people propose a certain age when children "should" start going to school. If I had yound kids, there is no way I would leave in to the care of the average public school "teacher" either.
60 posted on 07/25/2002 12:07:33 PM PDT by FreeTally
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