U.S. Backs Down From Immunity Demand

abc ^ | 7/10/02

[MJY1288]

I can assure you that if our troops are not immune from this kangeroo court, President Bush will yank them from every mission where our troops are in jeopardy. My oldest brother works for the State Department and he said this is one area where we will not bend. He is as conservative as anyone here and the stories he tells me about the entrenched liberals in the State Department would curl your hair and they are the most eager to leak anything negative about this administration.

[mlo]

So much for our resolve. There goes our sovreignty.

Try reading.

"The new draft U.S. resolution asks the court for a 12-month exemption from investigation or prosecution of peacekeepers and "expresses the intention to renew the request ... for further 12 month periods for as long as may be necessary."

This is not a cave, it is politics. It simply puts off the confrontation for 12 months during which we have time to twist some arms, and possibly have to rely on these allies for help in Iraq.

[rwfromkansas]

I didn't realize Bush has signed on to the treaty. When did you hear that?

/sarcasm

[edger]

How many ways can you spell CAVE?

And watch yourself cause KYOTO gonna slap you upside of the head, too.

[rwfromkansas]

Oh my gosh....how hilarious!

You think Bush will be worse than his father!!

lol

Seriously sir, you need to stop taking the pot.

[Howlin]

I am surprised and disappointed that this report by ABC, from the United Nations, is taken as truthful on its face by a lot of posters who should know better by now.

Are you kidding? They eat this crap up. Always delighted to believe the worst possibly thing about Bush. No waiting!

[rwfromkansas]

We aren't surrendering our sovereignty. Just how are we doing so when we are seeking exemption from prosecution overseas just as a precaution when we are already NOT A PARTY TO THE TREATY......I.E., NOT ABLE TO BE PROSECUTED.

[MJY1288]

All the leftist media outlets are experts at disinformation, They write the story as if Bush ahs agreed to the ICC treaty. The fact is...He pulled our signature from the treaty and that makes it IMPOSSIBLE for Congress to even vote on it.

NO TREATY SIGNED BY THE PRESIDENT can be made official without the consent of Congress. In some cases the President can withdrawl from a treaty Congress has ratified if that option is agreed upon from the start, like the ABM treaty. President Bush had the right to withdrawl with a simple six month notice, because that's the way it was written.

[edger]

12 months?? He couldn't hold out till July 15th.

[knak]

Always delighted to believe the worst possibly thing about Bush

I posted this article and have always liked Bush. I don't just sit here and wait for something to bad mouth him about. I just don't think we should give an inch in regards to this immunity deal. I don't think service men/women will care for this to much either.

[MJY1288]

Our service men and women are smarter than to believe an article from ABC, The President has withdrawn our signature from the ICC treaty and so our troops are assured they will not be subject to this kangeroo court. The debate is over immunity, NOT compliance. The deal is....No Immunity...NO U.S. Troops for missions where our troops are in jeopardy of being brought in front of this "U.S. condemened" Court.

Dont fall for the leftist propaganda

[Howlin]

Don't you think you should wait until he actually DOES SOMETHING before you burn him in effigy?

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

This is fine with me. No immunity. No Treaty. No "Peacekeepers". No involvement of US Military in foriegn affairs, unless there is a formal declaration of war (to protect US interests, including our response to the terrorist threat on our homeland and overseas interests). In that case, pull out all the stops until the job is done, then revert to the status quo. Let the euroleftyknownothingchildpeople defend themselves. Get out of the UN, defund the UN, throw the un OFF US soil. Fine with me.

[glc1173@aol.com]

Jorge Bush can forget reelection.

He barely got elected with overwhelming support of GIs and veterans. How's he going to do without them - due to GIs and veterans alienated over his not standing up to the Europeans and their kangaroo court?

[dalebert]

What happened? I thought we were pulling out of this.

[knak]

I know the debate is over immunity only and Bush has said numerous times that we will NOT sign the court thing. I just don't like the way this sounds. BUT, since you and Howlin both say to wait and see I will. This is the first time I've been insecure about Bush's policies. Well the deal with giving minorities grants to buy homes didn't go over to well either, but that's politics as usual. This better be too.

[PatriotReporter]

Watch not what he said but what he does

[MJY1288]

LOL, you certainly don't know anyone in the military. We are not a member of this Kangaroo Court, The issue is our immunity from it, and what must happen in order to keep us from withdrawling our troops from missions where our troops are in jeopardy from the ICC's jurisdiction.

Please read the facts before you jump on the "Bash Bush First" bandwagon

[MJY1288]

OK, please remember this when you see propaganda from the likes of leftist media outlets like ABC.

We have withdrawn our signature from this ICC treaty, Therefore congress will never get the chance to vote on it.

The debate is over immunity... Period

Our position is.... NO IMMUNITY.... NO PEACE KEEPING FORCES.

This story is about the USA willing to debate the issue while guaranteeing the immunity of our troops from being subject to this Kangaroo Court...NOTHING ELSE

[dsutah]

Ah! Thank goodness for the voices of reason on this thread. I saw this thread; and I immediately cringed. I just knew the grumbling, screaming, the "Oh no; he caved again"'s would be warming up down the page. I wasn't disappointed! But I looked down, and read the soothing words of reason coming from you and a few others. When I read "abc"; I knew right away that the article was probably going to be slanted.

I had hoped that some of these posters would have seen that. But I was wrong, the usual suspects who take it as 'gospel truth' were on there squalling away!