U.S. Backs Down From Immunity Demand

abc ^ | 7/10/02

[goodieD]

This was the first story I saw this morning on my news.. what a crappy way to wake up! I'm so angry I could spit nails.. I can't believe what this country has turned into.

[sneakypete]

The more things change, the more they stay the same....

See your new Bubba? He's the same as your old Bubba.

[B4Ranch]

we could only shoot at snipers if we could see and identify them as an enemy combatant. I pointed out that by definition, a sniper can't be seen.

What was the reply to your correct statement?

[goodieD]

The latest Congressional bill authorizing pilots to carry firearms in the cockpit was voted on over Bush's objections

I'm glad SOMEBODY brought this up! But I'm sure the Bushbots have a good explanation for that one too.. Look, I voted for the man, I'm a registered Republican (beginning to be sorry about that), I am losing more and more faith in him every single day. I don't like this attitude of backing the guy that can win because he's less bad than a leftist would be. Hey, better the devil you know eh?

[goodieD]

Funny, I heard him say that it WAS geared so that MINORITIES could buy more houses..oh..and how about millions for African AIDS? oh..and being against arming pilots... as I have asked before..how long will you have to keep explaining his actions? Yes, he's the best we've got right now, but frankly, it's not enough for me.

[demlosers]

A link to the FR thread 2 years ago when Clinton signed on to the War Crimes Court: some historical perspective.

[OldFriend]

Well, it seems they need their 'hate Bush' fix no matter what the facts. Pity isn't it?

[FreedomFriend]

You know, that Alex Jones, though his opinions have almost always been viewed as being "off the wall", it appears that his claims have come true. Is it coincidence or a willingness to see a "conspiracy"?

[FreedomFriend]

Wasn't it Bush, though, who was playing a classic game of class warfare with his speech about "less than _% of black Americans not owning their own homes, but white Americans owning at a much higher percentage"?

[The Iguana]

Bill Clinton: Chief Justice of the War Crimes Tribunal.

[Woodman]

Is it truely class warfare when you are trying to appeal to a class that is at war with you vs. trying to create a larger war though devision?

[FreedomFriend]

Check out how many support the "Global Economy". Also how many view America first economic policies as being reactionary.

It's sad. I'm of the opinion that the free-traders, globalists, etc. care about nothing more than corporate profit, and are labeling it as a conservative exercise of free markets (though, we know that's not what is really going on). Either that or they're misinformed on the issue.

[knak]

Its not enough. A future President sympathetic to the ICC can simply cease asking for an exemption. Congress has to write a ban of the ICC's jurisdiction on ANY American into law so another President won't be able to claim that America's abeyance from the ICC Treaty was just a policy decision of his predecessor.

My thoughts exactly. I said that to my husband last night. Something needs to be done here to stop Hillary or Al or whoever the next dem president is from joining up with the ICC or conveniently forgeting to renew the extension. Total immunity was my first choice.

But apparently a lot of folks here think we are just either not reading and comprehending the story or we are looking to bash Bush. I read it and completely understand the story. I want the US to have safeguards in place. Not just a "renewable" agreement. I realize this could be the first step in doing that also; to keep allies happy.

I'm glad someone agrees with me.

[FreedomFriend]

Bush could have left the comment out. You know it. It wasn't necessary.

[swheats]

I am inclined to believe the news media doesn't know what's going on concerning the ICC negotiations, other than what they have managed to glean from the DNC or the UN operatives.

I'll reserve judgment on Bush and the Congress decision until I hear it from the horse's mouth.

Concerning your personal attacks on the President you give me the impression you've never voted for Bush so we really haven't lost anything. Hitch your vote to fickle men such as Jeffords or McCain, they are also switching to Independent. Do you really believe you would receive better for your vote? They have all proven til now it's all about their standing-the people's wishes be damned.

[StriperSniper]

If you are so sure, are you willing to go in place of the first American indicted?

[knak]

updated story:

US softens stance - from the UN site

[Tailgunner Joe]

[Lancey Howard]

When faced with facts supporting the notion that Republicans are Democratic twins

See, right off the bat you got me laughing and made it difficult for me to go any further. Antonin Scalia is a "twin" of Stephen Breyer; Ron Paul is a "twin" of Bernie Sanders; Rick Santorum is a "twin" of Patrick Leahy; Ann Coulter is a "twin" of Eleanor Clift; etc.

I truly believe that you "not-a-dimes-worth-of-difference" people don't realize how utterly stupid you sound. But, hey, I guess I should be happy that at least you're not Democrats anymore.

[Woodman]

True, I know it. Some people demand it and sometimes you have to play the game.