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To: Snuffington
"Yet on the other hand you think smoking should remain legal? Your own reasoning argues against your position here. If it's dangerous enough to regulate its use on private property, why should it remain legal? Why would you oppose those who want to ban it?"

This conversation is getting a little weird. Who said that I would oppose anything? I just don't care.

181 posted on 06/24/2002 1:15:04 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Don Myers
Who said that I would oppose anything? I just don't care.

You don't care?

This is an important consideration because traditionally cigarrette smoke has been considered a nuisance, and handled under nuisance law. But you and others now contend it is more than a nuisance. You contend it is a health hazard.

Health hazards are measured by different standards than nuisances. We generally make things illegal when their use harms innocent bystanders, unless they can demonstrate some great value that outweighs their harm.

When it comes to smoking in restaurants, you want to treat them as health hazards. But outside of that, you don't care? That's some very shallow thinking on the issue you seem to care so much about.

189 posted on 06/24/2002 1:28:16 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: Don Myers
Who said that I would oppose anything? I just don't care.

Throughout the entire thread you are supporting the position that the owner of the bar/restaurant does not have the right to allow a legal activity to take place in his privately owned establishment and yet you say "you don't care?"

And is it the right of the community to decide that the particular aftershave you use is offensive and pass legislation to prevent you from using it? And is it the right of the community to decide that you do not bathe often enough and thus pass an ordinance that everyone in the community must shower every day?

Each and every one of the above examples is as legal an activity as cigarette smoking. To oppose one activity and none of the others speaks wonders of your mindset.......

225 posted on 06/24/2002 7:18:16 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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