[hchutch]

Perhaps, but keep in mind, we cannot enact legislation if we are unable to win elections.

[Dominic Harr]

Perhaps, but keep in mind, we cannot enact legislation if we are unable to win elections.

I would disagree with that.

In fact, I would argue that there is no real power in supporting 'elected officials' at all, when it gets down to it. I would argue that the only one who gets 'power' from an election is the official being elected. His base gets no power at all.

It is the 'monied interests' who have the power.

So backing any single elected official is pointless. When that person gets elected, he/she will abandon you and do what the big money wants 99.9% of the time.

So I believe the real path to power is to take control/make allies with as many of the 'special interests' as possible. Believing in any politician or political 'party' is a 'team' thing only good for rah rah fun. "We won you lost" kind of stuff.

[nanny]

We have control of the House now and a small minority in the Senate - and we are getting Democrat legislation. We also have the White HOuse. If a President cannot get good legislation through under those circumstances, he is not much of a politician. That argument won't wash. Remember, when we had control of both houses - did anything get done. I will agree, however, less destructive action came out of Washington than is coming out now.