[Hoppean]

Again, would you rather promote home ownership, or welfare-state dependency?

False choice. I choose neither. Abolish the welfare state and abandon this Bush plan. Promoting home ownership is not a legitimate function of government.

[hchutch]

No, I see it as a step in the right direction.

The frog in a kettle analogy works both ways. We cannot turn the heat up and reduce this without the frog jumping over to the left, just as they cannot wreck us entirely without the frog jumping to the right.

[Roscoe]

Abolish the welfare state

Do you click your heels or wave your magic wand?