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Conservatives not satisfied with Bush's record
The Washington Times ^ | June 18, 2002 | Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 06/18/2002 9:57:13 AM PDT by jimkress

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:54:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Reagan Man
just a week or so before the republican convention in the summer of 1980 Jerry Ford held a press conference and he told the world that the Republicans had to find someone different besides reagan because reagan was unfit. This was AFTER the republican voters had already spoken. Reagan was pressured to bring ford into the admin because reagan was perceived by the republican leaders as being unfit. Reagan was very polite to his destractors, but he decided that the co-president idea being foisted upon him was a bad idea.

The facts are that the country club republicans, like bush and like the others that now run the party, simply don't like conservatives and they didn't like reagan until after it was clear that the public supported him strongly. And facts are facts friend!

In my state, Arizona, the liberal republicans have been in charge for about 6 years now. They decided to subsidize the purchase of new cars. If you would merely purchase an inexpensive pollution control device, then they would have the taxpayers pay for 80-90% of the car for you. As you can imagine the car dealerships were no longer 'selling' cars. They were merely helping people fill out the paperwork because the deal really was just that good. One fellow told his employer in california about it, his employer purchased 165 pickup trucks and got them paid for by the arizona taxpayers. The whole thing cost the Arizona taxpayers perhaps 1 billion dollars by the time its' done. The republicans also saw fit to make special grants to their friends and say that certain industries didn't have to pay taxes. They had 255 different categories of businesses that didn't have to pay taxes. Because of this republican leadership today they have let prisoners go from their sentetnces early because the state prisons had their budget cut and had to let prison guards go. The public schools here in this state had their budget cut, not a slow-down in growth, an actual cut. The charter schools were private schools that the parents were able to select and the government paid most of the bill. But that is being sacrificed now too because of money problems. So, I am a conservative and I am voting democrat because in all of these in-state races the democrats are far superior to the republicans. The republicans did this huge damage to our state. They've not apologized. The governor who screwed up so bad had not stepped down. The republicans are too arrogant and need to be removed.

My republican congressman in washington is likewise a liar and a cheat. He campaigned on a platform of smaller government, typical republican lies they tell to get elected. He's been sitting for years on the House Ways & Means committee, any spending bill that comes through he blesses it like a cheerleader and the result is we have faster growth in guvment spending under the republican leadership in congress than we ever had under the dems.

So, a vote for the republicans is a vote for slavery. We must make the 2 parties compete to do what we want or else we will merely be slaves. Both parties are united today against us, only if we systematically vote against 70% of incumbents can we get them to do our bidding.

441 posted on 06/18/2002 11:31:36 PM PDT by Red Jones
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To: Texasforever
Hey Texasforever, I gave MAP a link to that Reagan quote, which I posted earlier on this thread. But she obviously doesn't care about what Reagan really said concerning politics and compromise. These people are braindead! And that other one is a disruptor, I'm sure of it.
442 posted on 06/18/2002 11:35:56 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Red Jones
The facts are that the country club republicans

Spoken like a true Marxist. Nothing like a bit of class envy to add to a conservative forum.

443 posted on 06/18/2002 11:44:29 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
"If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it."

Very wise words from the Gipper and thanks for posting it. Tell me, where is Bush getting 75-80% of what he wants from the democrats...with the rest later? Seems to me, he is giving the Democrats Carte Blanch right up front without even negotiating with them.

444 posted on 06/18/2002 11:44:38 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: Red Jones
>>>just a week or so before the republican convention in the summer of 1980 Jerry Ford held a press conference and he told the world that the Republicans had to find someone different besides reagan because reagan was unfit.

You're nuts!

I was around back then in the middle of the political battle. What you say happened, never took place. That's not to say that certain factions with the Republican Party, didn't pressure Reagan to pick Ford. But the fact is, Reagan didn't need Bush or Ford to beat Carter. Reagan won it all on his own.

445 posted on 06/18/2002 11:45:09 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: WRhine
I will agree that he is not leading the cross burnings on the border, but neither did the "gipper". I will agree that he is not bombing the UN but neither did the "Gipper". Here are some things the "Gipper" did that BUSH has NOT done

Bush was not the first govenor in the country to sign a waiting period law for handguns

Bush has NOT raised taxes.

Bush has NOT signed a no questions asked, overnight amnesty

Bush has NOT publicly lobbied for the Brady Bill

Bush has NOT pulled troops out of harms way because of casualties

Bush has NOT ordered military sentries on foreign assignment to carry unloaded weapons to appease the UN

Bush HAS actually funded Star wars not just use it as a threat to the Soviets,

Bush has yet to capitulate to the UN on any issue. Shall I go on?

446 posted on 06/18/2002 11:55:03 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Pretty weak list there though I'll give a nod on taxes which Bush in fact cut albeit slighty. You already know my list of his capitualtions. If not they are:

The unconstitutional CFR bill.

The Budget Busting Farm Bill.

The voucherless $40 billion Education bill sponsored by Ted Kennedy and the NEA.

The recently announced housing subsidies to targeted minorities.

His capitulation to the global warming environmental whackos.

His open support for the 245i Amnesty for illegals bill.

His refusal to enforce our nation’s immigration laws in this age of terrorism.

His mandated ban on racial profiling even if a suspect "acts suspicious".

Well that’s my short list for the time being. There is more of course and each day Bush seems to be adding to it.

447 posted on 06/19/2002 12:18:59 AM PDT by WRhine
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To: WRhine
Every item on your list is a pathetic WHINE. But then I have come to expect that of you. You are truly the Lightweight champion of FR. Go, iron your sheet and join the Vdare group.
448 posted on 06/19/2002 12:21:49 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Every item on your list is a pathetic WHINE. But then I have come to expect that of you. You are truly the Lightweight champion of FR. Go, iron your sheet and join the Vdare group.

Ok Mr. Biden, I mean Tex.

449 posted on 06/19/2002 12:35:13 AM PDT by WRhine
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To: nanny
Any home that someone has to be 'put' into is just more expensive public housing.

Nope.

450 posted on 06/19/2002 12:47:00 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: nanny
"I ate armadillo once. My 65 year old grandmother shot it with a .22. I remember she said it 'tasted like chicken.'"

Right ... that's how I remember it ...

... hairy, rubbery chicken with four drumsticks.
8')

451 posted on 06/19/2002 3:32:31 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: Barnacle
Did you log on to the wrong site? This is Free Republic. What were you trying to reach?

Are you really as stupid as you sound?

452 posted on 06/19/2002 5:29:03 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Texasforever
The "Patriot movement" is a real entity. Look it up.

So is the Patriot Act. See, it's okay to be a patriot, but it's not okay to be a patriot.

453 posted on 06/19/2002 5:36:19 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: jimkress
Bush is allowing unlimited immigration into the US. That is one big problem. If a nation cannot control who passes over its borders, there is no sovereignty. And, unlimited immigration will change the culture into a completely different society. And, that has been the dream of the left for many years. If our "Conservative" president furthers the agenda of the left, what are the real conservatives supposed to think?
454 posted on 06/19/2002 5:41:35 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Kibbylou
Open your eyes and drink a few cups of strong coffee.
455 posted on 06/19/2002 5:42:41 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: ned
"This is the fact that is hard to either dispute or ignore."

That is true. And, it shows how far this nation has fallen.

456 posted on 06/19/2002 5:43:45 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Poohbah
"The GOP found a way to win without the mythical "conservative base" votes because they HAD to. Why should Bush do them any favors?"

I suspect this is largely wishful thinking. I can tell you that my wife and I voted for Bush. And, I can also tell you that I am not a leftist or a moderate.

457 posted on 06/19/2002 5:45:08 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: meyer
"...his mild brand of socialism is nothing compared to what Gore would have brought us. I voted for Bush as the less "negative" candidate. "

Just when I thought that it was safe to go back into the water.... You prefer to be poisoned slowly rather than fast.

458 posted on 06/19/2002 5:46:45 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Don Myers
I suspect this is largely wishful thinking. I can tell you that my wife and I voted for Bush. And, I can also tell you that I am not a leftist or a moderate.

No, it's based on exit-polling data, and ONLY counts losses among the "Christian conservative political movement" or "religious right."

459 posted on 06/19/2002 5:47:40 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: meyer
"...Constitution doesn't allow us to make a U-turn on a dime so quickly that we give back change. "

The Constitution has nothing to do with it. It is the people who won't.

460 posted on 06/19/2002 5:48:00 AM PDT by Don Myers
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