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New Zogby Poll: Mexicans Say Southwest U.S. Belongs to Them; Shouldn't Need Permission to Enter U.S.
PRNewswire | June 12, 2002 | PRNewswire

Posted on 06/12/2002 11:50:12 AM PDT by The Energizer

New Zogby Poll: Mexicans Say Southwest U.S. Belongs to Them; Shouldn't Need Permission to Enter U.S.

WASHINGTON, June 12 /PRNewswire/ -- Americans and Mexicans have widely divergent views of border issues, according to a new poll by Zogby International. Zogby found that a large majority of the Mexican population believes the southwest territory of the U.S. rightfully belongs to Mexico, and that Mexicans should have the right to enter the U.S. without first obtaining U.S. permission. By contrast, Zogby's survey of Americans conducted within a few days of the Mexican poll shows a large majority supports reducing immigration levels and wants the military deployed along the border to protect the U.S. from illegal immigration.

Zogby's poll found that 58 percent of Mexicans agree with the statement, "the territory of the United States' Southwest rightfully belongs to Mexico." Only 28 percent disagree, and 14 percent are unsure. A similar majority, 57 percent, agree with the statement, "Mexicans should have the right to enter the U.S. without U.S. permission," while 35 percent disagree. Seven percent are unsure.

The survey has a margin of error of 3.5 percent. The Mexico portion of the survey was conducted in Spanish between May 25 and May 26 among 801 adults chosen at random throughout Mexico. The poll was commissioned by Americans for Immigration Control, Inc. (AIC), which advocates increased restrictions on immigration.

"There is obviously a large and significant gap between the attitudes of Americans and Mexicans," said Robert Goldsborough, AIC president. "While most Americans want immigration reduced, most Mexicans think they don't even need permission to enter our country. The poll clearly shows there is less common ground for immigration negotiations between Mexico and the U.S. than the leaders think. Support for a porous border and a loose migration policy occurs only on the Mexican side, not in the U.S."

Zogby's survey of American attitudes found wide majorities of Americans also oppose amnesty for illegal aliens. The U.S. portion of the survey was conducted of 1,015 likely voters in the U.S. from May 28 to May 30. It found that 65 percent disagree with the statement, "foreigners residing illegally in the U.S. should be given amnesty." Just 26 percent of likely voters support amnesty for illegals, while 9 percent are unsure.

A large majority, 58 percent, agrees that the U.S. should "admit fewer immigrants each year." Only 6 percent want "more immigrants each year," and 30 percent want to "keep immigration at the current annual levels."

The single largest majority in the entire poll was found among Americans supporting use of the military to guard the border. Fully 68 percent of those surveyed agree with the statement, "the U.S. should deploy military troops on the border as a temporary measure to help the U.S. Border Patrol curb illegal immigration." Only 28 percent disagree, and 3 percent are unsure.

Poll details and sub-group tabulations available on request.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: immigrantlist; immigration; mexico; unitedstates
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To: usadave
Arrange it and I will come.
281 posted on 06/13/2002 1:12:13 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: Sabertooth
If they won't vote against it, what makes you think they'll take up arms?

The distinction between these two options is that for the former, we are asking someone else to attempt to solve the problem for us (our elected officials), and for the latter, we would take it upon ourselves to attempt to solve the problem because our elected officials would have failed to solve the problem.

282 posted on 06/13/2002 1:34:45 AM PDT by usadave
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To: Cacique
Thanks for your comments in your post #274. You brought up some valid points in your analysis of this problem.
283 posted on 06/13/2002 1:39:13 AM PDT by usadave
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To: Brian Allen
Arrange it and I will come.

Thanks for your support.

284 posted on 06/13/2002 1:41:05 AM PDT by usadave
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To: ClearCase_guy
>>How could any significant percentage of the people think that the land is rightfully theirs? I suspect that this polling was done with an agenda in mind (as polls usually are).

Got that straight. Libs are very busy. Next they'll find some Inca's

286 posted on 06/13/2002 2:17:45 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: usadave
Thanks for your support.

Count on it.

287 posted on 06/13/2002 3:22:18 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: The Energizer
I say we dig a new Panama Canal on the sounthern border of the US and stock it with alligators.


BUMP

288 posted on 06/13/2002 3:38:41 AM PDT by tm22721
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To: txculprit
I work with them as well. When they first get here they are gungho and great hires, but after a few years they are just like everyone else.

They do live 4 to a one room apartment. They do send lots of money back home. They do get fake SS cards. They do take trucks across the border never to be seen again and file insurance claims on them.And you are right about the welfare scamming as well.

Its another case of gov.org creating two or more problems for every one problem they try to solve.

They do have attitudes. They steal from the job site, from 7/11 and every where in between and when caught go into I know nothing, I no speak english, I am stupid mode. Whites do these things also so I hate to sound like a bigot. The bottom line is it is a big problem and it is getting much worse.Nothing will be done about it. Our children are the ones who will have to suffer the effects.

I went to court for a traffic ticket the other day. I sat through the fella telling us a 5 minute speech on what was going to happen, then a spanish speech, Many court workers have to be bilingual, any call you make to a company has the press 2 if you speak english. Soon you will have to speak spanish to get a job in america, especially a gov.org job.

289 posted on 06/13/2002 4:01:08 AM PDT by winodog
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To: usadave
I made a prediction about 12 years ago. The blacks are going to realize that mexicans have stolen the goose that lays the golden eggs.

There will be serious trouble and they will do what they always do. Force whitey to fix things for them.

But it looks like the war between blacks and mexicans is not going to happen. Mexicans have overwhelmed them.Even in jail where blacks use to rule, the mexicans have used the same tatics to take over. They have learned to fight in gangs and stick together.

290 posted on 06/13/2002 4:22:50 AM PDT by winodog
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To: kcamtx
Well, what I've seen of how Mexicans inhabit the land, they come in, turn it into a toilet, Nobody but Mexicans wants to live there, so it becomes their land. Look at California. The same deal. Here in Minnesota, it's the same. Wherever they congregate in large groups, the neighborhood and landscape changes. It's rarely for the better. I'm so completely fed up with the way things are, that the first chance I get to buy some land, I'm moving away from the city, and away from the third world conditions of apartment living.

I sincerely wish that we could repatriate all of the illegals in our country back to their homeland. Unfortunately, it's part of the agenda set by the government. They say it's for humanitarian reasons, but in reality, it's about the redistribution of wealth. If today we were to invade Mexico, and turn it into a representational republic, it would revert back to it's current state within a week. The reason being, that's just how they operate. The Mexican people are descendants of Central American Natives and the Spanish Conquistadors. The difference between Americans and Mexicans are a direct result of how they were assimilated. The Mexican people were primitive when the Spanish showed up. The Spanish basically took all of the gold and left. The Mexicans left to their own devices were no better for their introduction to civilized society. They are still years behind everyone developmentally speaking, and lack the ability to govern themselves in the same manner as Americans. They are and continue to be a backward people, due largely in part to the mentality bred into them from 500 years ago. Their government is corrupt, and keeps the Mexican people from progressing, and demands that their people pay tribute when they come to America.

If you want change in Mexico, and if you want them to stay in their own country, then Mexico has GOT TO START ACTING LIKE A MODERN NATION!!!! If Vincente Fox actually wanted his people to progress, he'd develop his country, and educate his people, rather than send the Mexican dregs to America to Reconquer us through turning our cities into cesspools with drugs, gangs and crime.

291 posted on 06/13/2002 4:32:49 AM PDT by MadRobotArtist
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To: Big Meanie
The operative term is "Do."
292 posted on 06/13/2002 6:29:36 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Bump to the inevitable Aztlan. Thank you Jorje Bush.
293 posted on 06/13/2002 6:40:37 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: ppaul
What the heck is goin' on in Sacto?

Islam will increasingly become the religion of choice among America's "disenfranchized".

It offers a path to power for a committed minority(thru violence if necessary), it comes complete with ample funding from overseas, its an anathema to everything this country stands for & most white folks are becoming increasingly wary of it.

With our universities & the left preaching hatred for everything the west stands for the past 40 years Islam offers just the ticket. The stage has been set.

294 posted on 06/13/2002 7:06:28 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
You speak the truth. Sad but true. For all the ranting about how evil Christianity was and how it oppressed native peoples and their cultures, the left says NOTHING about how Islam is even *worse* in this aspect and is completely unashamedly so. What's surprising is the leftie women who support the cause of Islam. They're certifiably nuts IMHO
295 posted on 06/13/2002 7:08:56 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
My grandfather,R.I.P., was raised on a farm south of Sabinal Texas near the border with Mexico. He was a cowboy in the 1920's and rustlers from across the border were a constant problem. One winter, as he told the story, he and several other hands and I think one lawman were waiting for them on a night when the temperature was below freezing. It was a large group of bandidos that showed up that night, 20 or so I believe. My grandfathers group cut loose with Winchester 30-30's and succeeded in killing most of them. Grandpa said they stacked them like so much cord wood and by morning they were frozen stiff. Later that day, the Mexican authorities came and took the bodies away in a large truck. There was no more rustling after that cold night near the Frio River.
296 posted on 06/13/2002 9:20:57 AM PDT by MAWG
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To: MAWG
Now your Grandpa would be indicted for a hate crime. How dare he deprive those bandidos of his cattle!
297 posted on 06/13/2002 9:25:15 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes
I>I actually had an illegal mexican woman with 3 kids tell me it was MY DUTY to support her and her kids since I was single, educated and had no kids of my own. She wasn't nasty about it, very matter of fact. I decided then and there I was going to manipulate my working existence to bring home as little as possible so as not to contribute to the welfare state. I shrugged. I plan on shrugging even more still in the near future.

Just like Atlas...

It is unbelievable to me that they think we owe them! And here we are, giving them handouts...But of course the Left loves it, becuase THEY are Communists, and they want more Communists to vote DemoRAT.

This country won't be fit to live in in 10 years. I'm learning German so I can take my guns and go live in Switzerland.

298 posted on 06/13/2002 9:46:05 AM PDT by Henrietta
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To: DemoSmear
"Sí, alguien vago debió no apreció mi poste acerca del socialismo. Entonces usted me mandó el mensaje de GW. El derecho acerca de entonces, el alarma de la zona se fue. Acabo de mandar fuera una palabra del cuidado a ésos en el hilo. Cercióreselo Freep con un condón de cortafuegos..."

No habla Espano

299 posted on 06/13/2002 12:03:41 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg
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To: Mad Dawgg
LOL, it just said don't Freep without a firewall. No biggie...
300 posted on 06/13/2002 12:16:52 PM PDT by DemoSmear
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