[Sabertooth]

On a thread last weekend, President Fox stated that there are 18 million legally resident Mexican citizens in the U.S., and around 3 million "undocumented" illegals.

Well here's what the US Census Bureau says in a report released this past January:

Overall, the report estimates that as many as 8.7 million illegal aliens may have been counted in the 2000 Census.
LINK

Also, this...

The bureau found that 5,312,990 undocumented residents hailed from North and Central America, with 3,871,912 coming from Mexico, the source of the greatest number of illegal foreigners.
LINK.

So according to the US Census Bureau, or Vicente Fox is off by about a million, and frankly I take the Census numbers with a grain of salt. There have been more than 800,000 apprehensions of Illegals coming out of Mexico since 9/11 alone. And even they estimate they only nab 20% at best.

The problem, Arne, isn't Mexicans who've immigrated legally. The problem is Illegals, wherever they come from. It just happens that the more come from Mexico than anywhere else, and no foreign nation is so bald-faced about promoting Illegals as is Mexico under Vicente Fox.

[ArneFufkin]

You have to take back your government. Your counties, your school districts, your cities and states. If you live in Irvine, California make Irvine an inhospitable place for illegals to live and thrive. Hard ass police and prosecutors, school districts that will not accept non-languaged pupils, businesses that are under community scrutiny for their employment practices ... that stuff works.

If the whole kitten-caboodle moves from Irvine up to Anaheim or El Monte ... "have a nice day folks"!. Then you help those residents grab the attention of their city pols and police. Better yet ... work on a county level, and send them out of Orange County. It's the P.C. dandies in L.A. County who shoulder the burden now. California may force Orange County to give benefits, but Orange County Sheriffs can arrest them walking out of the County Administrative Center with their paperwork. They're illegal aliens. The INS can process them on the site and dispose as per policy -hopefully on a bus back across the border. Couldn't they? Regarding legally resident aliens ... the Orange County Attorney needs to litigate that burden. It's unconstitutional, it provides special status for Mexican non-residents vis a vis non-residents from San Diego or Bakersfield or Atlanta, Georgia. Someone has to get pissed and endure the institutional static - and that someone is you guys living down in the SW and your neighbors.