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To: prisoner6
SO...I guess what we should do is drive W from office and hand control ofer to Tom Daschle or some other democRAT?

No ... what we should do is band together and force OUR party to do what it is CONSTITUTIONALLY bound to do ... FAITHFULLY EXECUTE the law ... even where democRATS are concerned. We should make it known to OUR party that anything less is UNACCEPTABLE, now or EVER. We should USE the crimes the democRATS committed against them to cement our hold over the government for the next decade, like they did to us after Watergate, instead of acting like Clinton democRATS and ignoring the law.

Your approach will almost guarantee that democRATS win the next several elections because by ignoring the crimes you will be telling the democRATS that they can commit ANY crime and get away with it ... even if Republicans control the investigatory and prosecutorial portions of the Executive Branch. Your approach may even convince Republicans that the only way to win is to commit and coverup crimes themselves. Then where will we be?

If you think there will be a mass conversion to conservatism after driving W from office, you're on drugs.

I am not suggesting driving W from office. I am only asking that we stop acting like cheerleaders who defend ANY action of the GOP and act like Americans by defending the very document that made this country ... the Constitution. I am asking that we defend the integrity of those institutions, like the judicial and election systems, that separate us from the terrorists and tyrants around the world.

W wasn't about stopping the slide into socialism. It was about slowing it down and giving conservatives the opportunity to FIND a way to stop it.

You won't FIND the way by knowingly covering up crimes committed by the bad guys ... especially crimes that threaten the very integrity of the system you CLAIM to respect. You just give them blackmail material to keep you from EVER exposing them for what they are. Ignore these crimes NOW and it will be nothing but mutual assured destruction and continued movement AWAY from the rule of law from NOW ON. Without faith that our laws will apply equally to those who are elected as us, there will be no respect for the law ... and our laws are one of the most important things separating us from tyrants, kings and terrorists.

Do you visit local watering holes and argue with dyed in the wool socilists, especially the older ones who've been through the depression and wars? Try to present the conservative line to them. Get them to vote it. Ain't gonna happen, and trust me in the inner cities and union areas, they are teh ones we have to defeat.

Exactly ... so all this talk about Bush positioning himself to win their support is NONSENSE, as are the polls now being touted to show his margin of victory. But these socialists do have to obey the law ... unless, of course, we destroy the law by not enforcing it and turn this country into a place like the USSR (which was run by SOCIALISTS and ONE party that decide by its WHIM what laws would and would not be obeyed).

169 posted on 06/05/2002 3:26:20 PM PDT by BeAChooser
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To: BeAChooser
OUR party

FWIW I'm registered MISC. I am not a fan of the RINOS and of course I wouldn't go to the democarat camp escept to infiltrate. (Wich I have done...hehehehhe)

Your approach will almost guarantee that democRATS win the next several elections because by ignoring the crimes you will be telling the democRATS that they can commit ANY crime and get away with it

Sorry, I dont grasp that at all. In fact I see just the opposite. By dividingt consrvatives the democrats will had an open door.

I am only asking that we stop acting like cheerleaders

No one has to act like a cheerleader, just don't destroy what little access we have to the WH .

Exactly ... so all this talk about Bush positioning himself to win their support is NONSENSE, ...

probably. I still have faith he might come around next term. Not much faith becaues I think he's a globalist.

But why attack the only - admittedly weak - wedge conservatives have and give fodder to the socialists? W is/was our foot in the door after how many years of socialist rule? Yes we had Newt - who became an embarrassment - and The Gipper, who history will most likely record as the greatest leader of our era.

But W, even though I strongly disagree with and am disappointed with, is for the most part not >advancing< socialism to and great degree.

As I said he is just a slowing of the slide. Now it's up to us, at the grass roots level, to make the big difference.

prisoner6

191 posted on 06/05/2002 3:56:43 PM PDT by prisoner6
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To: BeAChooser
"No ... what we should do is band together and force OUR party to do what it is CONSTITUTIONALLY bound to do... "

All 2500 of us?

196 posted on 06/05/2002 4:03:49 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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