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A Few Questions For Die-Hard Bush Supporters
Toogood Reports ^ | June 5, 2002 | Lee R. Shelton IV

Posted on 06/05/2002 1:20:54 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen

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To: rintense
You're crack'n me up! Stop!
61 posted on 06/05/2002 1:59:28 PM PDT by Registered
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To: ex con
Ashcroft naked? Ew.
62 posted on 06/05/2002 2:00:42 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Stand Watch Listen
• How would you have reacted if Bill Clinton had signed the Patriot Act into law and given the government sweeping new surveillance powers?

Considering the events of 9/11, and considering the bipartisan support for the bill, I probably wouldn't have been upset if Clinton had been the President to sign it.

• Would you have criticized a Democrat president for signing a $26 billion education-spending bill?

I'm not pleased about a perpetuation of federal control of education, but had it been a Democrat, it would have a $26 billion or more blank check. At least Bush is trying to reform education, and put some standards into education--something a Democrat would never do.

• Did you feel betrayed when Bush signed Campaign Finance Reform into law?

No. He held his nose as he did so, and I believe it is the role of the judiciary to judge the constitutionality of legislation, not the President.

• What do you think about Bush's position on granting amnesty to hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants?

It hasn't happened yet, so it's not a done deal. And Ronald Reagan did likewise.

• Would you have tolerated a Democrat proposal for federally funded faith-based initiatives?

No, I would not have tolerated a Democrat proposal for faith-based initiatives because it would be too intrusive into the practice of religion. I believe that faith-based organizations should be able to compete for a piece of federal social service grants, rather than let secular humanist organizations have a monopoly on that money. As long as the federal government is in the business of supporting social programs, faith-based programs should be allowed to participate in those programs.

• What would your reaction have been if a Democrat had said, "No one should have to pay more than a third of their income to the federal government"?

I would have supported that Democrat. But this is fantasy: no Democrat would ever say such a thing.

• What do you think about the president's granting of Permanent Most Favored Nation status to China?

I'm inclinded to oppose it. But this issue doesn't make or break my support for Bush.

• What's the difference between Bush and the Democrats on the issue of farm subsidies?

Probably not much. It was a politically expedient position on Bush' part, and steals an issue from the Democrats in an election year. Gosh! The President playing politics. Horrors!

• How would you react if a Democrat president sent a $2.13 trillion budget to Congress?

Let's talk about the individual line items of that budget rather than the gross amount. For all I know, the nation needs a $2.13 trillion budget. What would you suggest? A budget of $125,000?

• Would you have stood for a Democrat saying "No!" to arming airline pilots?

Again, I disgree with Bush on this, but it isn't a support-buster, in my opinion.

• What would your reaction have been if a Democrat had pushed for the federalization of airport security?

This was reached by compromise. Republicans opposed it; Dems supported it. A compromise was reached. Don't lose sleep over it.

• Are you willing to stand by and let the Bush administration cater to the environmentalists on the global warming issue?

Didn't Bush brush aside the EPA report on global warming yesterday? What's your problem with his position?

• What do you think about Bush's call for a Patient's Bill of Rights?

Again, this is a volatile issue, or was. The public clammered for it. Bush's concept of "Patients' Rights" and the Democrats' are significantly different. Bush opposes frivolous lawsuits against HMOs. The lawsuits provision is the cornerstone of the Democrats' concept of patients' rights. I support Bush on this. If Gore had been President, there would have been a sell-out to the trial lawyers long before this.

• What one thing has Bush done that sets him apart from the Democrats?

He's a decent person. I thank God every day that following eight years of Clinton/Gore, George W. Bush is President.

• It's been a year-and-a-half since Bush took office. When do we start to see a decrease in the size and scope of government? For that matter, when do we start to see even a remote indication that this administration will think about doing anything to try to limit the federal government?

We saw an effort to limit the growth in the federal budget when Bush proposed his first one: a limit on growth to 4%. It's been less than a year since the first Bush budget went into effect. If he controls the growth of government, I'm happy. The fact that he doesn't have a line-item veto like most governors do means he's not able to be as effective in cutting programs as he or we might like. But, realistically, when was the last time the budget actually decreased?

63 posted on 06/05/2002 2:01:07 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: Stand Watch Listen
• How would you have reacted if Bill Clinton had signed the Patriot Act into law and given the government sweeping new surveillance powers?

Considering the events of 9/11, and considering the bipartisan support for the bill, I probably wouldn't have been upset if Clinton had been the President to sign it.

• Would you have criticized a Democrat president for signing a $26 billion education-spending bill?

I'm not pleased about a perpetuation of federal control of education, but had it been a Democrat, it would have a $26 billion or more blank check. At least Bush is trying to reform education, and put some standards into education--something a Democrat would never do.

• Did you feel betrayed when Bush signed Campaign Finance Reform into law?

No. He held his nose as he did so, and I believe it is the role of the judiciary to judge the constitutionality of legislation, not the President.

• What do you think about Bush's position on granting amnesty to hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants?

It hasn't happened yet, so it's not a done deal. And Ronald Reagan did likewise.

• Would you have tolerated a Democrat proposal for federally funded faith-based initiatives?

No, I would not have tolerated a Democrat proposal for faith-based initiatives because it would be too intrusive into the practice of religion. I believe that faith-based organizations should be able to compete for a piece of federal social service grants, rather than let secular humanist organizations have a monopoly on that money. As long as the federal government is in the business of supporting social programs, faith-based programs should be allowed to participate in those programs.

• What would your reaction have been if a Democrat had said, "No one should have to pay more than a third of their income to the federal government"?

I would have supported that Democrat. But this is fantasy: no Democrat would ever say such a thing.

• What do you think about the president's granting of Permanent Most Favored Nation status to China?

I'm inclinded to oppose it. But this issue doesn't make or break my support for Bush.

• What's the difference between Bush and the Democrats on the issue of farm subsidies?

Probably not much. It was a politically expedient position on Bush' part, and steals an issue from the Democrats in an election year. Gosh! The President playing politics. Horrors!

• How would you react if a Democrat president sent a $2.13 trillion budget to Congress?

Let's talk about the individual line items of that budget rather than the gross amount. For all I know, the nation needs a $2.13 trillion budget. What would you suggest? A budget of $125,000?

• Would you have stood for a Democrat saying "No!" to arming airline pilots?

Again, I disgree with Bush on this, but it isn't a support-buster, in my opinion.

• What would your reaction have been if a Democrat had pushed for the federalization of airport security?

This was reached by compromise. Republicans opposed it; Dems supported it. A compromise was reached. Don't lose sleep over it.

• Are you willing to stand by and let the Bush administration cater to the environmentalists on the global warming issue?

Didn't Bush brush aside the EPA report on global warming yesterday? What's your problem with his position?

• What do you think about Bush's call for a Patient's Bill of Rights?

Again, this is a volatile issue, or was. The public clammered for it. Bush's concept of "Patients' Rights" and the Democrats' are significantly different. Bush opposes frivolous lawsuits against HMOs. The lawsuits provision is the cornerstone of the Democrats' concept of patients' rights. I support Bush on this. If Gore had been President, there would have been a sell-out to the trial lawyers long before this.

• What one thing has Bush done that sets him apart from the Democrats?

He's a decent person. I thank God every day that following eight years of Clinton/Gore, George W. Bush is President.

• It's been a year-and-a-half since Bush took office. When do we start to see a decrease in the size and scope of government? For that matter, when do we start to see even a remote indication that this administration will think about doing anything to try to limit the federal government?

We saw an effort to limit the growth in the federal budget when Bush proposed his first one: a limit on growth to 4%. It's been less than a year since the first Bush budget went into effect. If he controls the growth of government, I'm happy. The fact that he doesn't have a line-item veto like most governors do means he's not able to be as effective in cutting programs as he or we might like. But, realistically, when was the last time the budget actually decreased?

64 posted on 06/05/2002 2:01:55 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: My2Cents
Opps...sorry for the dual post.
65 posted on 06/05/2002 2:02:22 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: Southack
Stop it! You're confusing them with the truth.

good post, btw

66 posted on 06/05/2002 2:02:34 PM PDT by usconservative
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To: Southack
Sorry but youre wrong the treaty with Russia was better than the 1700 warhead deal he just made. Secondly hes lying!
67 posted on 06/05/2002 2:02:51 PM PDT by claptrap
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To: woofie
A FEW QUESTIONS FOR Lee R. Shelton IV: Why dont you get a life?...this one is clearly a waste

I'm sure he'll be along to answer your question shortly. He's a member of this forum, I believe.

68 posted on 06/05/2002 2:02:58 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Registered
Just trying a little bit of levity after a very serious beginning to the week...
69 posted on 06/05/2002 2:03:05 PM PDT by rintense
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To: monday
You know its bad when all we ask of our president is that he not break the law.

And we ask our reps to not kill young interns and bury them in a park or drive them off bridges and leave them to drown in the car.

70 posted on 06/05/2002 2:03:09 PM PDT by Veggie Todd
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To: Poohbah
This is a long-term project, and it's going to require a lot of patience, hard work, and an understanding of tactics.

Oh, poo, that's horse crap, even Ray Charles can see this, for Christ sakes. For example, this titanic invasion of millions of illegal aliens has been going on for 20 years or so. When the Presidents DAD was in office!!! What has been done Poo? We now have the President giving speeches in Spanish and all you neocons think its cool. He has even tried to push legalizing illegal aliens in light of this massive invasion. In a war time yet?

71 posted on 06/05/2002 2:03:10 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: rintense
Hasn't developed a fetish for blue dresses and cigars either.

Or for fat California chicks from dysfunctional families.

72 posted on 06/05/2002 2:03:46 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Poohbah
It gets pretty frustrating. Most of these armchair generals have never had to worry about the safety and wellbeing of millions of people. Shoot, most of them have never had to worry about the safety and wellbeing of anyone other then themselves.
73 posted on 06/05/2002 2:03:53 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Southack
Excellent post! Bush can't go it alone. As long as Congress is divided evenly, with a left-leaning tendency, he can't do anything other than what he's doing, i.e., picking his battles.
74 posted on 06/05/2002 2:04:21 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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To: Alberta's Child
I do think he's formed an unhealthy attachment to one of his blue ties though... could be trouble.
75 posted on 06/05/2002 2:04:39 PM PDT by rintense
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To: monday
You know its bad when all we ask of our president is that he not break the law.

It's not "all" we ask of our President, it's the first thing we expect of him. And if he can't meet this first standard, then any discussion about items 2 through 100 on the list is largely irrelevant.

76 posted on 06/05/2002 2:05:53 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: rdb3; Poohbah; McGavin999; FRLurker
It has been nearly a year-and-a-half since George W. Bush, the savior of conservatism, descended from on high to begin his earthly reign in Washington, D.C. Republicans assured us that he would restore integrity to the White House and would be a marked improvement over the promiscuous Bill Clinton. Well, in all honesty, that could have been accomplished by electing a neutered chimp to the office of president.

Now there's a nice fair statement to make you feel all warm and fuzzy and really want to participate, isn't it?


77 posted on 06/05/2002 2:06:27 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: My2Cents
...give me a break...this was the same type stuff klinton was criticized for by nearly all conservatives.
78 posted on 06/05/2002 2:06:43 PM PDT by galt-jw
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