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A Few Questions For Die-Hard Bush Supporters
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| June 5, 2002
| Lee R. Shelton IV
Posted on 06/05/2002 1:20:54 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Jim Robinson
Am I quotable?Around here Jim, you're quotable.
Anyone tells you different, they're lying.
To: Jim Robinson
The only chance we have of turning this thing around is to regain control of the Senate. Keep voting out the Democrats, regain contriol, and then we can worry about the RINOs.Thank you for stating it so well! I probably shouldn't have launched today but this bashing and this thread finally did me in. I just want to TAKE BACK the SENATE and KEEP the HOUSE and then see that we get more good Conservative candidates nominated and elected. We cannot do it all at once! We need to all work at the grassroots level and it will happen over time! We have the winning Agenda IMHO!
Without those Chairmanships of the House and Senate Committees, we are not going to get much of anything accomplished! I just want folks on the same page working together to take on the DemocRATS -- not each other on here.
To: rdavis84
To tell the truth I didn't pay that much attention to the Nomination Process.
But when it comes to the election and Bush's Florida victory, IMHO Bush not only won legitimately, but he beat Gore even using Gore's unfair and illegitimate recount procedures.
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posted on
06/05/2002 8:16:13 PM PDT
by
Jorge
Comment #584 Removed by Moderator
To: oldvike
I understand your concern, and I,m not the type to flame someone because they disagree with a policy, or a piece of legislation. But when someone is posting slanderous remarks about a public official without a single schred of facts or proof I think it's my and your duty to call them on it.
No Hard feelings, I just had to defend my comments to that person to you, because I felt I had a legitimate camplaint about his comments about our AG.
Thanks for the civil reply.
Mike
585
posted on
06/05/2002 8:17:38 PM PDT
by
MJY1288
To: JulieRNR21
586
posted on
06/05/2002 8:18:21 PM PDT
by
Howlin
To: PsyOp
GWB's administration is the first to come out and take the un-equivocal position the Second Amendment protect the the right of the individual to Keep And Bear Arms. Thereby ensuring that the measures taken to fight terrorism will be kept in check in the way intended by the founders. Hollow words at best, actions speak louder than words.
I would also like to add that in times of war, the federal government has always assumed additional powers, only to return them to the people when the war is over.
No declaration of war. Where is bin Laden?. Care to extrapolate with any examples of "only to return them to the people when the war is over.". We've already been told that this war will go on for a long time.
Look's like you've swallowed the hook, line and sinker.
And before you slam Bush's budget compromises, go take a look at the one's Reagan made with the Dems. And remember that, just as they did then, the Dems are failing to live up to the agreements they made in the compromise.
What kind of drugs are you on?. Reagan's "compromise" was the largest increase in federal spending every recorded, subsequently increasing the deficit by something on the order of 400%.
You need a reality check.
---max
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posted on
06/05/2002 8:18:25 PM PDT
by
max61
To: Howlin
you have mail
588
posted on
06/05/2002 8:18:47 PM PDT
by
ruoflaw
To: Admin Moderator
I thought his posts to me look familiar -- I should have guessed! You are right -- again and again and again . . .
To: Jim Robinson
Things are getting pretty nasty around here again JimRob, as I am sure is not a surprise to you. Maybe it is time to put the 'no bashing' thread up to the top of breaking news again.
To: Howlin
reguarding my last...nevermind...LOL Reform Party Shindig?...fight??? Now this is getting interesting!
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posted on
06/05/2002 8:24:00 PM PDT
by
ruoflaw
To: Satadru
But, it is a mute point, because Bush Jr will not be sending conservative justices to the Senate.This is a bold face lie!
In a MTP interview, Russert asked Bush who he would nominate to th USSC. Bush said, he would consider nominees who are in the mold of Antoin Scalia and ClarenceThomas. In fact Judge Luttig is high on Bushes list of possible future nominees to the SC. Why are you people, so into distorting the truth about Bush? Give it up already! You're not fooling anyone with such baseless rhetoric.
ps-I've got a list that Alberto Gonzalas complied, listing all the top propects for President Bush to choose from. I find it, I'll post it, right here.
To: Jim Robinson
Ha! Well, I don't know about that, but I do agree with your statements above. The only chance we have of turning this thing around is to regain control of the Senate. Keep voting out the Democrats, regain contriol, and then we can worry about the RINOs. ROFLMAO!, a pipe dream. In the meantime, Rome burns and the sellout continues.
---max
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posted on
06/05/2002 8:24:44 PM PDT
by
max61
To: PhiKapMom
Well, we're gonna take a lot of flak over the next several months, but I can guarantee you that when it comes election day, most of these people are going to vote for Republicans as their reps. No right thinking FReeper would ever sit it out and allow a Democrat to take office. And, in 2004, you can bet that we'll all be pulling for Bush over Gore, Daschle, Hillary, et al (well, all but one percent or so). Jim
To: ArneFufkin
You're not that important. None of us are. What a group of narcissistic ninnies we have here.Ummm, better check post 226. Some people are.
To: NMC EXP
Rights are not absolute in the sense that they cannot be revoked or forfeited. They can. Privileges are not comparable.
"We hold these Truths to be self evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness - That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the Governed..."
Do you disagree with Tom, or are you just splitting semantic hairs?
The laws of this land are granted, enforced and are derived The Constitution, not the Declaration of Independance. Prior to 1789, the laws were based upon the Articles of Confederation, not the Declaration of Independance.
All the rights we enjoy are derived from and based on specifications set forth in The Constitution.
All the rights are derived from the living document itself, along with the Bill of Rights, i.e., the first ten amendments to The Constitution.
While Jefferson and the rest of the Founders were correct in the famous quote you refer to, the rights they mention by name ("Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness") are not tied to laws, but endowed by God.
There is a distinct difference.
In a later note, you compare the Declaration to the Ten Commandments. Once again, there is a difference. Moses set those down as dictated by God as the Law. The Commandments, along with the Levitical laws (i.e, the Book of Leviticus) were set apart as the laws of the land of Israel. The Levitical laws were derived directly from The Commandments and the teachings of Moses (i.e., "the Lawgiver").
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posted on
06/05/2002 8:26:18 PM PDT
by
mhking
To: MJY1288
Cool, sounds good to me.
I realize that many of these conversations will ultimately deteriorate into namecalling. It's inevitable. We're all passionate about politics, otherwise we wouldn't be here at FR.
597
posted on
06/05/2002 8:28:16 PM PDT
by
oldvike
To: max61
Well, have you got a better idea?
To: Stand Watch Listen
I would like to add "Why do we continue to support Ben Laden's troops in the Balkans, while fighting them in Central Asia?"
To: ruoflaw
I always respected Willie Green, American in Tokyo, George in BP etc. because they were SUPPORTERS of Buchanan. They posted interesting material that highlighted Buchanan policies that made sense. They were FOR something. Even in those threads, the anti-everything arsonists would show up and throw a Bush smear stink bomb into the crowd and a neat discussion of Trade just became a food fight. It's the same folks just wrecking stuff today. Feel good about Bush .... I'll put an end to that! Talking about the UN global-warming report that is being whizzed on by the Prez? Well here's 245i and his sellout to Fox! So on and so on.
This forum would be a wonderful launching pad FOR a Conservative Third Party. People could get behind the policies, principles and priorities they desired. They could work out a way to approach the Political process. Get someone elected. Generate a little forward mojo.
Pffft! There's none of that. There's no proactive strategizing on all these Immigration threads ... it's "Bush is selling us out to the Mexicans" "Jorge is giving away the Constitution to Fox" "We'll all be speaking Spanish before Bush is done" "They want to force their money and IDs here" ... blah blah bleccchhhh.
Do something, already! Find out what programs are being granted to Illegals in your county and schools, and report back to FR. Craft a political strategy. I'd follow that convo in a courteous manner. Do Anything but complain. Please!
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