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Limbaugh excoriates Bush on global warming
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, June 4, 2002

Posted on 06/03/2002 11:43:15 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: peteram
You suggest the correct approach, IMHO.
21 posted on 06/04/2002 3:00:12 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Excoriates

Isn't that the process of removing dead skin cells?

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22 posted on 06/04/2002 3:01:09 AM PDT by Fighting Irish
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To: goldstategop
I wonder about the quality and ideological commitment of the current crop of Republican federal candidates.

I guess we'll have to keep a close eye on our local candidates in the next few months to see what they REALLY stand for.

23 posted on 06/04/2002 3:03:55 AM PDT by peteram
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To: Thorondir
But what is to be done? Where shall we go when the Republicans are Democrats? Third party? Hell no! That's what the liberals want. We are so screwed.

What we need is someone on the right that is not afraid of gridlock. The Democrats have that in the Senate, and they are effectively stopping all Republicans efforts. When Clinton was in office, we had some guts in the House Republicans, but now that Bush is in office, the House Republicans have become wimps. Unfortunately, little Tommy Daschle is the only thing in Washington with any guts.

24 posted on 06/04/2002 3:15:45 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: goldstategop
Ah, if only the president didn't have to govern a divided people, maintain a coalition among an international community that hates us (mainly for NOT signing the Kyoto treaty and for withdrawing from the ICC), and win a global war.

Just think, if President Bush didn't have this kind of "stuff" to do....he, too, could sit at a computer and spew his anger and disappointment with every move someone else makes.

25 posted on 06/04/2002 4:18:52 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Tall_Texan
You are so right. With some conservatives its a all or nothing game, and if things are not done their way they will just stay home. Unlike the the Rats who just keep plugging away with small wins, we want it all right now.
26 posted on 06/04/2002 6:39:58 AM PDT by centurion
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To: JohnHuang2
Maybe Rush should have actually read the report which clearly states although there is evidence of global warming having man made causes, there is a great deal of uncertainty as to what the impact is, as well as how much of natural climate change is natural! The report clearly questions the accuracy of the science and the potential for impact, and calls for further in depth long term monitoring of climate.

Then again, it's easier for Rush to spout without learning the facts on this one.

From the summary word for word, this is the FIRST paragraph under SCIENCE:

"Green house gasses are accumulating in Earth's atmosphere as a result of human activity, causing global mean surface temperature and subsurface ocean temperature to rise.While the changes over the last several decades are likely due mostly to human activities, we cannot rule out that a significant part is also a reflection of natural variability"

Reducing the wide range of uncertainty inherint in current model predictions will require major advances in understanding and modeling of the factors that determine the sensitivity of the climate system. Specifcally this will involve reducing uncertainty regarding:
-the future use of fossil fuels and futre emissions of methane.
-the fraction of the future fossil fuel carbon that will remain in the atmosphere and provide radiative forcing versus exchange with the oceans or net exchange with the land biosphere.
-the feedbacks in the climate system that determine both the magnitude of the change and the rate of energy uptake by the oceans.
-the impacts of climate change on regional and local levels.
-the nature and the causes of the natural variability of climate and its interactions with forced changes, and
-the direct and indirect effects of changing distributions of aerosols.

Knowledge of the climate system and of projections about the future climate is derived from fundamental physics, chemistry and observations. Data are then incorporated into global circulation models. However,model predictions are limited by the paucity of data available to evaluate the ability of coupled models to simulate important aspects of climate. To overcome these limitations,it is essential to ensure the existence of a longterm observing system and to make more comprehensive regional measurements of greeenhouse gasses.

Evidence is also emerging that black carbon contains aerosols ,(soot) which are formed by incomplete combustion, may be a significant contributor to global warming, although their relative importance is difficult to quantify at this point. These aerosols have significant negative health impacts,particularity in developing countries.

While current analyses are unable to predict with confidence the timing, magnitude, or regional distribution of climate change,the best scientific information indicates that if greeenhouse concentrations continue to increase, changes are likely to occur. The U.S. National Resarch Council has cautioned, however, that "because there is considerable uncertainty in current understanding of how the climate system varies naturally and reaacts to emissions of greenhouse gases and aerosols, current estimates of the magnitude of future warnings should be regarded as tentative and subject to future adjustments(either upwards or downwards)." Moreover, there is perhaps even greater uncertainty the social, environmental, and economic consequences of changes in climate.

Get the facts Rush. And stop relying on Drudge.

28 posted on 06/04/2002 7:13:35 AM PDT by finnman69
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To: centurion
I don't need to "have it all right now". What I'm tired of seeing is Republicans giving ground even when they are in greater control than the Democrats. Other than welfare reform, a tax cut and a little-used line item veto, what has the GOP accomplished that might actually *shrink* government instead of expanding it?
29 posted on 06/04/2002 9:32:27 AM PDT by Tall_Texan
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To: peteram
True. But think for a moment. If enough conservatives really get ticked off at GW, they would do what they can to fill both houses with conservatives just to offset the moderation that appears to be coming from the White House. Also, to send a message that we ARE conservative and nothing in-between is good enough.

And WHAT conservatives will be left on the ballot to vote for once Jesse Helms is replaced by Elizabeth Dole, Strom Thurmond is replaced by Lindsey Graham and Phil Gramm is replaced by John Cornyn? Since the higher-ups at the GOP are actually sponsoring primary candidates who are somewhat lacking in conservative credentials (in my view), the TRUE conservatives (especially in the Senate) have become few and far between. They have no voice (Trent Lott? Denny Hastert? Gimme a break!!) within their own party. They only serve to drum up the faithful when it's time for re-election and the rest of the time are told to shut up or get with the program.

I think Goldstate is right. Such tactics are likely to make more conservatives stay home than to make them more willing to vote.

30 posted on 06/04/2002 9:41:53 AM PDT by Tall_Texan
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To: semper_libertas
Leave the party. A new credible 3rd party will not arrive until the Republican party has been abandoned. Until then every vote for a Republican is an endorsement of all the abuse it has dished out, includijng 40+ years of government expansion, control and constitutional abuse.

Clever analogy but with one major difference. If the battered wife (conservatives) leave the battering husband (Republicans) then the children (the nation) must become wards of the state (under the control of Democrats). Which is far worse? Taking the abuse of the husband that is good to us even 30% of the time or abandoning the children to left-wing concentration camps?

I *have* to vote for the best candidate and do when it's primary season. In the general election, I usually have to take my lumps and vote for the lesser of two evils.

A viable conservative third party won't become a reality for another 20-30 years and, even then, the rift will leave the door wide open for Democrats to take FULL CONTROL of our government until the third party is able to overcome both Republicans and Democrats. Hope you'll enjoy driving unarmed in your federally-mandated 70 MPG Yugo before that happens.

31 posted on 06/04/2002 9:53:35 AM PDT by Tall_Texan
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