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YOU: the only people that were PUNISHED by Gorton's loss were the Republicans

ME: I'd say the people punished are anyone who benefits from a conservative judiciary, because Daschle now has the power to tie all his nominees up and he'll do that for another 2 years if the GOP doesn't get the Senate back.

YOU: The GOP would not have lost the Senate in the first place if they had run candidates who believed in the Constitution.

Since you've changed the subject to why the GOP lost the Senate rather than whether anyone has been hurt by it other than the GOP, I take it you are admitting you're original assertion is wrong. So presumably you won't be making that erroneous assertion anymore.

As for losing the Senate because they "don't run candidates who believe in the constitution" whatever you define that to mean, I assume they've never run such candidates in your rocket scientist judgement. Therefore, they never should have controlled the Senate in the first place.

Perhaps what's really going on is you actually prefer that they don't control the Senate or anything else.

As for losing the Senate because they "don't run candidates who believe in the constitution" whatever you define that to mean, I assume they've never run such candidates in your rocket scientist judgement.

I define that to mean the 2nd Amendment, for starters. It does not grow or change; it means the same thing today as it did when it was written. By abandoning his support for it, Slade Gorton proved he didn't really believe in the Constitution. Your assumption is wrong; the GOP has run and even today continues to run some candidates who believe in the Constitution. A sampling would include Bill Dannemeyer (CA), Bruce Herschensohn (also CA), of course Barry Goldwater (AZ), Malcolm Wallop (WY), Murray Sabrin (NJ). There are many others I'm sure and feel free to add to this list. My main point here is the Republican Party has changed for the worse and that has allowed my party (the Libertarians) and others like the Constitution Party and Pat Buchanan's version of the Reform Party to take customers (voters) from them. If they would return to their own roots as a party of principle they wouldn't have the problems they're having now. I don't honestly believe that will happen.

ME: I'd say the people punished are anyone who benefits from a conservative judiciary, because Daschle now has the power to tie all his nominees up and he'll do that for another 2 years if the GOP doesn't get the Senate back.

I'd say no one benefits from a conservative judiciary because the conservatives have no more respect for our Constitution than the leftists. They treat personal freedom with the same contempt that leftists treat economic freedom.

Perhaps what's really going on is you actually prefer that they don't control the Senate or anything else.

Exactly!!! I don't want rulers, I want leaders. Since the GOP seems determined to be the former, I choose the latter (Libertarians).