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Here is another post that I did on another thread that maybe helpful:

I have known for several years that OKCSubmariner had been asked to quit using two reporters names at KFOR when he went on talk shows.

I am sure that most Freepers would rather have just good insight from other Freepers and I feel most comfortable doing that. It is not pleasant to have to confront someone with untruths. And you good folks don't know the inside scoop. If you were to put OKCSub and I in a room and I gave you my background, it would be so reassuring to all of you. I have been at my present company for 16 years or thereabouts and am in a very high level position. I come in contact with many prominent citizens of this city and am friends with many of them, also. I have written one lengthy article on the bombing back in 1999 that was actually published in a Colorado paper, but I am not a writer by profession so that is why it was just one. It was totally based on things in the public record because of my frustration of someone not putting it all together. I got that out of my system so have not written any more. I have been appointed to a state committee as a parent volunteer that had to do with education that had great success my last year in bringing a conservative voice to our decisions. I am presently on a county committee for my denomination that deals with ethical issues. Only about three of us are lay people. I am also involved in a national organization that deals with political issues.

Pat gave his background and it is impressive. But he has indicated that he is unemployed, evidently since 1986. I cannot compete time-wise with that. I have a new grandson I want to spend time with, I need to help Jayna with things she needs to get done and I have a full-time job. I will do my best to give some insight that may be helpful, but it is eating my gut out to hear the lies that OKCSub keeps on posting, and it does not seem to help with the Freepers to have my insight. Most seem to not want to listen and even think that the government is out to get him when I try to set the record straight. I know how Jayna felt when no one seems to want to listen.

189 posted on 7/12/02 3:53 PM Central by Nancie Drew
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Finally, after reading through the differences of opinion for days, Nancie has made it perfectly clear.

Nancie:"I want to set the record straight on another matter. (But this does not mean it is the only other inaccuracy of OKCSub). Jayna Davis has the utmost respect for Dan Vogel. She and I have talked about him several times during the last seven years. One thing that she has often said is that in his position as FBI spokesman, he had never lied to Jayna. Pat has made a statement about Davis fully acknowledging Vogel's misconduct as it relates to the OKC bombing. She has never made that statement to Pat. .... You can take my word that she never said to me anything derogatory about Dan Vogel).

Is it not perfectly clear to anyone that has followed the evidence of the Middle Eastern involvement in the OKC bombing that the FBI, including Agent Vogel, conspired to cover up the participation of John Doe 2 and the Middle Eastern connection in the mass murder of 168 innocent people? John Doe 2 may have very well played a role in the attack on America on 9-11. The Islamic terrorist network that participated in the Oklahoma bombing certainly participated in the 9-11 attack. Mr. Vogel and his fellow agents have blood on there hands. Anyone who defends the liars that let the terrorists of 4-19 go free to attack Americans again, may want to reconsider which side they have chosen.

I would respectfully suggest anyone aligned with the lies perpetuated by the FBI in OKC not show up here and throw out accusations of lying against a man that has poured blood, sweat, and tears to inform the American people about the truth in the OKC bombing.