[Lauratealeaf]

Kim, you seem to miss my point. I really don't think you are deluded either. So, are you missing it on purpose? You assume that people like the van Dams have faith. What faith? How have they exhibited faith? Their reckless lifestyle has revealed only an interest in earthly matters, not spiritual. When adult parents live reckless, thoughtless, carnal lives and bring other reckless, selfish adults into their homes where their children are sleeping they are dead spiritually and emotionally to their children. The van Dams were not thinking of their children at all. They cannot be compared to parents who take their children to church assuming that the wolves in the outside world are not sharpening their teeth inside. The van Dams are the wolves and they have no faith.

[Freedom2specul8]

No, I'm not missing anything..but I think it's a matter of major miscommunication based on the fact that you believe I have a bias towards the parents personally. I wasn't referring to the van dam's religious nature, training etc.. I was referring to the fact that parents whose kids were victimized by the pedophile priests were betrayed, their faith in that particular situation was undermined. IE: I have faith that my kids teachers will not become abusive. If they do, steps would be taken. If they do, they betrayed my trust and undermined my faith. Some parents have lost COMPLETELY FAITH in the public school system so they remove their kids and put them in private schools or homeschool them. That is the kind of faith I was referring to.

[RnMomof7]

Kim, you seem to miss my point. I really don't think you are deluded either. So, are you missing it on purpose? You assume that people like the van Dams have faith. What faith? How have they exhibited faith? Their reckless lifestyle has revealed only an interest in earthly matters, not spiritual. When adult parents live reckless, thoughtless, carnal lives and bring other reckless, selfish adults into their homes where their children are sleeping they are dead spiritually and emotionally to their children. The van Dams were not thinking of their children at all. They cannot be compared to parents who take their children to church assuming that the wolves in the outside world are not sharpening their teeth inside. The van Dams are the wolves and they have no faith.

We agree Laura..they are unregenerate hedonists...and they opened the door for the terrible events of that night