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THE OTHER VAN DAM STORY(New article from San Diego will have V.D. PR machine will be in overdrive!)
San Diego Online ^ | May 1, 2002 | Thomas K. Arnold

Posted on 05/01/2002 4:03:29 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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\Edited by Sarah Sabalos LaSpaluto
 
 
Wednesday, May 01, 2002


The Other Van Dam Story

—Thomas K. Arnold

Talk show host Rick Roberts made headlines with his KFMB-AM radio show about Damon and Brenda van Dam’s allegedly swinging lifestyle. But he wasn’t the only radio personality—or media outlet—to cast a critical eye on the backstory of the Danielle van Dam kidnapping case.

John Kobylt and Ken Chiampou, whose John and Ken Show airs weekdays from 3 to 7 p.m. on Los Angeles station KFI-AM, devoted three shows to the case, even traveling to San Diego to broadcast from the van Dams’ Sabre Springs neighborhood. The week before that, they were the first to cast aspersions on the van Dams, a full day before the Roberts broadcast.

The Millennium Children’s Fund had just announced a $10,000 reward for information leading to the safe return of Danielle. Fund administrator Douglas Pierce had visited with the van Dams, and the next day he called a press conference in Los Angeles at which he voiced suspicions about the couple’s behavior. For an hour, Pierce blasted the van Dams for their apparent lack of emotion and general rudeness to him.

“I don’t know how much was true and how much was hysterical, but that’s what made it fascinating. We tried to unravel it on the air,” Kobylt says. “In retrospect, I think he did peg their personalities very well—the lack of emotion, the detachment, the obsession with the media message—and perhaps he got the vibe that they live a different life than most people.”

As soon as Pierce finished on-air, John and Ken introduced their next guests: an angry Damon and Brenda van Dam, who lambasted Pierce as a nut case. “We had scheduled them in advance, but when they heard Doug was on the show, they canceled, only to change their minds right before show time,” Kobylt says.

After the interview, John and Ken picked apart the conversation and spoke critically about the van Dams’ lack of emotion and their defensiveness about questions pertaining to their own behavior and actions the last night Danielle was seen. The next day, the swinger story broke in The San Diego Union-Tribune—furthered that evening on San Diego radio by Rick Roberts.

“It’s a very dramatic story,” says Kobylt. “Everybody got obsessed with it pretty quickly... We have a pretty fair audience in San Diego—we’ve even made it into the top 10 on occasion—and we started getting calls from people who live in the neighborhood and know the van Dams. As a result, it might as well have been in L.A. I tend to look at the whole [Southern California] area as the same, anyway.”

(By press deadline, the van Dams could not be reached for comment by San Diego Magazine.)

While the van Dam case has been duly covered by most of the mainstream media, the Star tabloid stoked the flames of controversy with a front-page banner that screamed, “The new JonBenet—what Danielle’s mom and dad are hiding.” Inside was a two-page story headlined, “Tragedy of little Danielle—and the dark sex secrets her parents are trying to keep hidden.”

Quoting the proverbial unnamed sources “close to the probe,” the Star reported that later-arrested suspect David Westerfield “was aware of the van Dams’ sexual activities and had approached Brenda about hosting a sex-swap party in his house.” The Star said Brenda had admitted to police “that the couple belonged to a swingers’ club called Club CB” and that sources say she “flirted outrageously and danced with Westerfield” the Friday night Danielle disappeared. “He [Westerfield] knew that Brenda and her friends were sexually involved, and he wanted to be part of the action, but for whatever reason, he was not invited by Brenda to accompany her and her four friends back to her home that night for more partying and sex,” the Star says it was told by a source.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Some parents have lost COMPLETELY FAITH in the public school system so they remove their kids and put them in private schools or homeschool them. That is the kind of faith I was referring to.

Well, there is one point on which I agree. But we are talking apples and oranges about faith and the van Dams. They either had total faith in their alarm system, safe neighborhood, non-barking dog, Barbara or they just never gave it a thought. I think that the consumption of booze, drugs, sex, etc. so completely perverted their lives that they just didn't think enough about their children. And, if they had been thinking of their children at all they would not have had shady characters in their house at all hours of the night and living such a shallow and seedy lifestyle.

281 posted on 05/03/2002 2:15:11 PM PDT by Lauratealeaf
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To: Lauratealeaf
I *think* I agree with ya! I was trying to say earlier, that if DW is the guy, or even if it's someone else, they found the weakness of hte parents and exploited it. Like I originally said, it doesn't matter if they were whores or Christian Ministers, the pedophile did not care. (if indeed she was a victim of a pedophile..) Which in a way overrides whatever their lifestyle is. That may not make sense. Now, if one does look at the lifestyle, that's a whole nother issue that can be criticized. It's just 2 issues.. One issue is the pedophile, his predatory behaviour and the second issue just happens to be the lifestyle of the parents. If the parents were Christian Ministers who spent say too much time away from home....would they have been critized? Just a thought..not a flame!
282 posted on 05/03/2002 2:40:16 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
If they hired babysitters who smoked pot, drank, and held orgies, then YES!!!
283 posted on 05/03/2002 3:53:56 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: Politicalmom
I walked right into that one! Touche`!
284 posted on 05/03/2002 4:39:36 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
The National Institute for Missing and Exploited Children supplies the figures. In 1997, 24 percent of abducted children were abducted by strangers. About half, 49 percent, were kidnapped by family members, typically a divorced parent. Another 27 percent were kidnapped by an acquaintance.

In other words, 73 percent of abducted children suffered that fate due in part to lifestyle choices their parents made: the choice to divorce, or to befriend sleazy characters. When the media, by ignoring these data, give the impression that child kidnapping could happen to any family, the wholesome no less than the unwholesome, we are once again being grievously misled.

Rabbi Lapin has greiviously misunderstood the use of the term "aquaintance" which does not mean friend or frequent associate. It has absolutely nothing to do with closeness or frequency of contact, but simply that the perpetrator in some way (however tenuous) was known to the victim or had some type of prior contact. Traveling salemen and the washer repair guy or the UPS delivery person would all be "acquaintences".

Rabbi Lapin assumes that victims of "acquaintance" kidnapings are victims of their parent's unsavory socializing, but that is not the case, because the category is extremely broad and is made up of all kidnaps that are neither familial or by complete strangers, and so includes all kidnaps by persons with very tenuous "acquaintance" and the level of actual social interaction with the family can be very minor. Of course, statistics on "wholesomeness" of victim's families are not kept, but his assumption that wholesome families are safe from kidnap is misleading. They certainly are no more or less safe from the stranger abductions (24%), and a far larger portion of the "acquaintance" abductions (27%) than he realizes

Acquaintance kidnap is also the one most likley to result in injury or death for one of two reasons; the liklihood of being identified, and (in cases with real social acquaintanceship) the high levels of anger and revenge motivations from broken relationships.

That being said, I think that if DW is indeed the perpetrator, one of his motivations was revenge for being excluded from swing set he seemed (to my perception) to be trying to get into and he does fit the profile of the situational offender.

And I still find it hard to demonize the parents for the acts of a man they were excluding from their circle. If DW is found guilty, what will his defender's say then? That it is still BVD's fault because if she had only "done" DW, then he wouldn't have "done" Dani?

285 posted on 05/03/2002 5:05:30 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Valpal1
That it is still BVD's fault because if she had only "done" DW, then he wouldn't have "done" Dani?

aaack! That's a line we won't forget.

286 posted on 05/03/2002 5:16:35 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~;Lauratealeaf;spectre;MizSterious;RnMomof7;FresnoDA;vacrn;southflanknorthpawsis
You are ass-u-ming she was sexually assaulted based on the MEDIA and the misreports of porn. Wait for the evidence or would you rather just forgo the trial? Save a little money? If it's the wrong guy, well, so what, the papers said he was?
287 posted on 05/03/2002 8:00:06 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: Lauratealeaf
Kim, you seem to miss my point. I really don't think you are deluded either. So, are you missing it on purpose? You assume that people like the van Dams have faith. What faith? How have they exhibited faith? Their reckless lifestyle has revealed only an interest in earthly matters, not spiritual. When adult parents live reckless, thoughtless, carnal lives and bring other reckless, selfish adults into their homes where their children are sleeping they are dead spiritually and emotionally to their children. The van Dams were not thinking of their children at all. They cannot be compared to parents who take their children to church assuming that the wolves in the outside world are not sharpening their teeth inside. The van Dams are the wolves and they have no faith.

We agree Laura..they are unregenerate hedonists...and they opened the door for the terrible events of that night

288 posted on 05/03/2002 8:12:23 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Like I originally said, it doesn't matter if they were whores or Christian Ministers, the pedophile did not care

You are assuming it was a pedophile....it may "simply" have been a high friend of the parents..no inhibitions because of the ETOH and drugs. A deadly danger INVITED into the house BECAUSE of the parents "lifestyle" not their "faith" Kim!

289 posted on 05/03/2002 8:18:59 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7, Jaded
I haven't discussed the faith of the vd's.. I was referring to the parents who had faith that the priests or teachers would not harm their babes. I wasn't referring to religious faith. That was incorrect. OTH, within the last two or 3 threads I also said if indeed it was a pedophile and if indeed she was killed for sexual purposes..and it wasn't the first time I said it. *please don't make me look for them..it's late :)* so yes even I agree with ya! I don't expect you to read everything everyone writes..so it doesn't offend me that you thought that I thought that this entire case in fixed in stone, and was a black and white issue.
290 posted on 05/03/2002 9:03:45 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Jaded
You are ass-u-ming she was sexually assaulted based on the MEDIA and the misreports of porn

Good point. If I remember correctly, the ME said it could not be determined. How convenient to therefore assume. Anything to make the pieces fit, huh?

291 posted on 05/03/2002 9:04:39 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: RnMomof7
I should have clarified if indeed it was a pedophile in the quote you took..but in all the threads, I rarely saw people write "if indeed the vd's are swingers, or if indeed the vd were swinging that night, or if indeed they did not grieve, or if indeed ...etc etc" ....it does go both ways!! A few of ya did clarify that the vd's may have not committed or caused the death..including you mom..you even said you were willing to wait--well so am I. I am willing to wait for the trial and watch them get reamed by the defense...which is typical. The rape victim usually gets trashed too.
292 posted on 05/03/2002 9:07:19 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: RnMomof7, Jaded
I found one!!!!

"Posted by ~Kim4VRWC's~ to Lauratealeaf On News/Activism May 3 4:40 PM #282 of 292 snip--"...Like I originally said, it doesn't matter if they were whores or Christian Ministers, the pedophile did not care. (if indeed she was a victim of a pedophile..) ..."

g'nite

293 posted on 05/03/2002 9:32:08 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
SDPD MEDIA RELEASE FRIDAY MAY 6TH AM

altThe search of the Miramar Landfill continues today. As of 11:30 a.m., there were about 150 active searchers, mostly San Diego Police Department personnel. We do have some Marines from Miramar, with additional Marines expected late this afternoon from Camp Pendleton. We're attempting to line up U.S. Navy volunteers for weekend duty at the landfill. Last night, approximately 40 Navy personnel from two ships (one was the U.S.S. Boxer; don't have info on the other) worked from about 7pm to midnight. Search organizers estimate that they should be halfway through the 5,000 tons of trash to be searched by this afternoon. The effort could be completed as early as Monday. If that changes, we'll advise you.

Regarding documents possibly relating to the David Westerfield case being found at the landfill: a detective who was part of a search team late yesterday afternoon spotted an envelop with attorney Steven Feldman's name on it. He is Mr. Westerfield's attorney. The envelop was taken to the command post and was turned over to an evidence technician, who placed it in an evidence bag. The bag has been impounded until we receive instructions from court authorities. Mr. Feldman and the District Attorney's Office are aware of yesterday's discovery.

The department has decided to end the daily 5pm briefings. The questions go over the same issues and have been answered as fully as we're going to answer them. While we will not do regular briefings or one-on-one interviews for the foreseeable future, we will continue to provide e-mail updates when there is information to pass on. If we have a major announcement, we will hold a news conference -- with as much advance notice as possible. There will be no daily updates over the weekend unless there is something significant to report.

We appreciate your interest in this case and your cooperation for the past week. Your coverage keeps the case before the public, increasing the possibility that we ultimately will receive the tip that leads us to Jahi and/or whoever is responsible for his disappearance.

David J. Cohen
Media Services Program Manager
City of San Diego Police Department

294 posted on 05/04/2002 7:29:18 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
Regarding documents possibly relating to the David Westerfield case being found at the landfill: a detective who was part of a search team late yesterday afternoon spotted an envelop with attorney Steven Feldman's name on it. He is Mr. Westerfield's attorney. The envelop was taken to the command post and was turned over to an evidence technician, who placed it in an evidence bag. The bag has been impounded until we receive instructions from court authorities. Mr. Feldman and the District Attorney's Office are aware of yesterday's discovery.

That is strange. Why would they go to such lengths to handle mail that does not belong in this case whatsoever. It looks more like a hands across America event. Why don't they just give the mail to Mr. Feldman? His client is in jail and cannot be involved in this case. Brenda van Dam is though.

295 posted on 05/04/2002 7:38:29 AM PDT by Lauratealeaf
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To: MizSterious

Names of interest in this article....

Brenda and The Damon, Sara Muller Fraunces, Susan Wintersteen, Diane Halfman, Reneé Brown, Sharon Walls, Mark Klaas


Van Dams to hold off in Jahi search

Couple will refrain unless parents ask (No pun inteded!)

 

By Susan Gembrowski
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

May 4, 2002

altBrenda and Damon van Dam, whose 7-year-old daughter, Danielle, was kidnapped and killed, returned to the media spotlight this week to help in the search for a missing toddler.

But Sara Muller Fraunces, who coordinated media interviews for the van Dams when Danielle disappeared in February, said the couple have left it up to 2-year-old Jahi Turner's parents to contact them about doing anything further.

"Brenda's main purpose in being involved, as is mine, is to do whatever we can to find Jahi," Fraunces said yesterday.

Fraunces arranged national media interviews Tuesday in which Jahi's mother, Tameka Jones, pleaded for her son's return. She said she will do that again if Jones asks for help. Brenda van Dam, who stood next to Jahi's mother at a local media interview Tuesday, also has offered her continued help.

The van Dams were instrumental in converting the daniellemissing.com Web site into the jahimissing.com site, said Susan Wintersteen, a friend who coordinated community activities in the search for Danielle.

The couple are declining all interviews and were unavailable for comment for this story.

Some have criticized the van Dams for their involvement in the Jahi search, but Diane Halfman, former director of the Danielle Search Center, said the couple probably would have been criticized if they hadn't helped.

Initially, Brenda van Dam contacted Jahi's mother to offer advice on getting out fliers and getting more people involved. The couple and 10 other volunteers from the Danielle Search Center came out Sunday to help find Jahi, who has been missing since April 25.

"The van Dams just simply couldn't stand by and not try to help bring more awareness to Jahi's plight, and they realize not only that coming out in front of the public would be difficult for them emotionally, but that they also may be subject to additional criticism," Fraunces said. "But they put that aside because the best interests of a little boy was more important to them."

Fraunces, who has a public-relations firm, said she offered her expertise at no charge to help find Jahi. She did not know the van Dams until Danielle disappeared and a representative of Qualcomm, where Damon van Dam works, contacted her to help the couple. Fraunces also said she worked for the van Dams at no charge.

Reneé Brown, who runs a small nonprofit company in La Mesa, handles public relations for the Jahi search as a volunteer.

"Brenda's job was to get Jahi's name in front of the camera, and she succeeded in helping us do that and we are just going to take it from here," Brown said.

Sharon Walls, Brown's assistant during the search, had nothing but praise for Brenda van Dam.

"She's been wonderful in support, in knowledge, in helping out and in helping Tameka understand how things are working and how they will work," Walls said. "She has been a pillar of help."

A coordinator from the Laura Recovery Center met yesterday with volunteers who have helped on the Jahi search, much as the national organization did with the volunteers assisting the van Dams.

Mark Klaas, whose daughter was taken from her Northern California bedroom nearly a decade ago, said assisting in another search can be therapeutic.

"What you do when you help somebody in a situation like this is you give meaning to your own child's death," Klaas said. "You take what you've learned in your situation and apply it in another situation, so that what happened to your child doesn't continue to happen."

296 posted on 05/04/2002 7:45:01 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Lauratealeaf

The Van Dam (Hard) Core Team.....(From Union Trib)....

Members of what the van Dams called the core support team included: center director Diane Halfman, a San Diego police officer who retired from the force after 11 years; community coordinator Susan Wintersteen, a neighbor; fund coordinator Bill Libby, a family friend; communications coordinator Paula Call, whose daughter was in Danielle's second-grade class at Creekside Elementary; and Sara Muller Fraunces, a communications consultant.

297 posted on 05/04/2002 7:45:28 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: Lauratealeaf
As of now...I am highly suspect of the SDPD actions....note that 7 of the 11 investigators at the Land Fill were Westerfield case detectives....
298 posted on 05/04/2002 7:46:23 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: RnMomof7

Many contribute toward finding missing girl


Family vows all funds will be used for search

By Kristen Green
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

February 11, 2002

As soon as the search for Danielle van Dam got under way, strangers wanted to know how they could contribute to the cause, and a bank account was established.

Fund-raisers are being held in Danielle's name throughout the county, including a radio station-sponsored concert at Mission Valley Center yesterday that brought in more than $5,000.

It's unclear how the money will be spent. But last night, Danielle's parents, Damon and Brenda van Dam, said through a spokeswoman that all donations will go toward the search for their daughter. Any money left over will go to a charity, said the spokeswoman, Sara Muller Fraunces.

"We don't want one cent out of this," Damon van Dam said through Fraunces. Bill Libby, a friend of the van Dams who helped set up an account at Wells Fargo Bank, said the donations probably will be spent on posters, banners and ribbons – anything that will remind people to look for Danielle. More than $6,900 has been raised, but none of the money has been spent.

In initial conversations, Libby said the money also could be used to pay a public relations specialist the family hired to help land interviews with national television networks.

He said he paid Fraunces, who owns the marketing-consulting firm OutSmart, a $500 retainer fee out of his own checkbook. Fraunces said she returned the retainer check and will work free.

"I will not be accepting any money from the fund – period," Fraunces said last night. "I'm going to be paying for things out of my own pocket."

Yesterday, the family also retained Lynn Rubenson, a senior vice president for Fleishman-Hillard San Diego, to work with Fraunces. It wasn't clear yesterday who would pay Rubenson's fees; she did not return calls.

At the Channel 93.3 fund-raiser yesterday, morning show host A.J. Machado said the proceeds from the event, which attracted a couple of hundred spectators, would be deposited in the fund.

"My feeling right now is just about Danielle," Machado said. "I can't control how she gets helped. I just hope the resources are there for what's needed."

Two local musicians performed, and Machado raffled off more than a dozen donated items. Amanda Brown of Lemon Grove bought three raffle tickets for $15. She said she doesn't care how her donation is used, as long as it goes to the effort to find Danielle.

"We wanted to support finding her," Brown said.

Yesterday, more than 125 volunteers searched a 11/2-mile area around Danielle's home, looking for signs of the missing 7-year-old. Danielle's parents believe she was abducted from her bed early Feb. 2 while the family was sleeping.

On Friday, a Smoothie King in Poway set aside more than $400 – 20 percent of the day's receipts – for the fund in Danielle's name.

Carl Mikeska, a neighbor of the van Dam's who recently opened the franchise, said he wasn't sure how the money he raised would be used.

"We're going to put it to the fund, and we'll let them decide what they need to use it for," Mikeska said. "I'm sure it's going to be used appropriately. I'm hoping that happens with it."

Donations are being routed through Community Bible Church in Scripps Ranch. Rev. Barry Minkow said the van Dams aren't members of the congregation. But the account had to be set up by a nonprofit, and a family friend who belongs to the church asked Minkow if it could be done in the church's name, Libby said.

Libby promised the donations would be handled properly.

"The money is about getting the word out that Danielle is missing," he said.


299 posted on 05/04/2002 7:54:19 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
Libby promised the donations would be handled properly.

You know Fresco that is a "give me" line..it is like taking candy from a baby...so I will let it pass:>))

300 posted on 05/04/2002 8:02:57 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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