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THE OTHER VAN DAM STORY(New article from San Diego will have V.D. PR machine will be in overdrive!)
San Diego Online ^ | May 1, 2002 | Thomas K. Arnold

Posted on 05/01/2002 4:03:29 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
OK, Kimmie..book mark this post!

I thought the pornography charges were dropped because they couldn't prove it...Obviously I stand corrected and you are right, Kim. (boy, is my face red).......

sw

161 posted on 05/02/2002 5:40:54 PM PDT by spectre
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~,FresnoDA
If I remember correctly, the SEARCH TEAMS were told to go back to the DEHESA ROAD area and search (by someone at the Danielle Recovery Center) based on two anonymous phone calls to the Center.

How convenient. No proof anyone called the Recovery Center and gave that tip at all.

162 posted on 05/02/2002 5:59:23 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: spectre
Well, don't feel bad spec...this case has so many twists and turns it's hard to keep up with the changes.
163 posted on 05/02/2002 6:13:15 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: UCANSEE2
on two anonymous phone calls

I'd like to see the source..and that's not saying I don't believe you..but you know how all of us are... we like sources just to be safe to repeat them to others.

164 posted on 05/02/2002 6:14:21 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: UCANSEE2
Well, I'm glad someone is keeping up the friends list...it's too confusing. Are you mapping out their relationships? If you can make a webpage, that'd be a great visual.
165 posted on 05/02/2002 6:22:24 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
on two anonymous phone calls

I'll go find them.

166 posted on 05/02/2002 6:27:18 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Where does it say in there that ALL of the images were porn?
167 posted on 05/02/2002 7:02:08 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Still searching.

So far, Susan Winterstien, who was running the Danielle Recovery Center, is the one that called police and told them Searchers had found a body in the Dehesa Rd area.

168 posted on 05/02/2002 7:13:35 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
I foudn this on one of the other forums. Thought you might want it.

She held a job at University of SD, too, as I recall. Office of the Vice President for University Advancement Associate Vice President for Marketingand Communications ........Sara Fraunces http://coursecat.sdsu.edu/0001/AAO.pdf

169 posted on 05/02/2002 7:20:03 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: UCANSEE2
Gee, I wonder how she thought of that. Coinky-dinkle?
170 posted on 05/02/2002 7:27:30 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: FresnoDA
I heard that the step Dad in the case of the missing boy flunked his lie detector test and that the police don't believe that the kid was ever in the park.
171 posted on 05/02/2002 7:45:42 PM PDT by Eva
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~,Jaded
Well, my eyeballs are ready to fall out. I have been searching and searching. I am printing out the PH transcripts just so I don't have to keep jumping to them.

I haven't found this reference, to WHO alerted the SEARCH CENTER to go back and search the DEHESA RD area.

I know I read it because I remember it seemed unusual that they got 2 phone calls with the same tip.

But, until I find proof, it has to be considered a rumor.

If I find it, you two will be the first I reply to to let you know. Thanks..gman

172 posted on 05/02/2002 7:55:19 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Eva
That is what the news report said. Also, that the police had taken fingerprints from the boys room and compared them to prints lifted from the park, and there were no matches.

Therefore they doubt the boy was ever there.

173 posted on 05/02/2002 8:05:22 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Jaded
Hmmm, percentage of what was and was not porn was not given..but by the fact that they introduced 60,000+ into evidence...I suppose defense could have told them it wanted a correct or exact number... we know not all of them are considered porn cuz there were pics of his girlfriends daughter. It sounds like he was quite organized, labeling them teen, Bj's, big red, farm one... WOO HOO wonder what was in those.

Here's his general answer.. This discusses the many thousand they found, with less than 100 of questionable..and everyone refers to it as those that must be under 18.

Q HOW MANY IMAGES WERE YOU ABLE TO RETRIEVE?
9 A FROM AN OVERALL, THERE WERE THOUSANDS OF
10 PICTURES. BUT FROM A QUESTIONABLE STANDPOINT, WE
11 RETRIEVED APPROXIMATELY, I WOULD SAY, LESS THAN A
12 HUNDRED.

174 posted on 05/02/2002 8:14:26 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Eva
thanks for the heads up..that's terrible..
175 posted on 05/02/2002 8:16:13 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: UCANSEE2
I appreciate all the work you are doing...especially printing the transcripts. That's a good idea. I may try that..
176 posted on 05/02/2002 8:19:59 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Jaded
http://64.225.95.82/dcf/Danielle/2038.html

This is good to check out too.

177 posted on 05/02/2002 8:20:52 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~;FresnoDA;
That's Jam's. Been there quite a bit in the last two months. Went through all the archives at the end of March.

Here's a question, I'm supposed to be doing some band stuff right now, the yearbook and some stuff for the orchestra. I have 2 separate folders for each group, in each folder there are sub-folders for each event, and more folders in each folder by who gave me the pictures and sometimes even more sub-sub-sub folders because of the way the digital pictures are numbered. Then I have separate duplicate folders by event and grade for the pictures I'm actually going to use. It is exceedingly organized and 90% of the people in the pictures are under the age of 18, what does that make me? That sounds rather like a TAAS test math question. All of my pictures are EXCEEDINGLY ORGANIZED.

Footnote: The digital pics of the other Danielle, when you aim a digital camera and are trying not to cut off the head or feet, generally the lower abdomen will be the center of the picture where the auto focus focuses. Just extra info.

178 posted on 05/02/2002 8:30:08 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~,Jaded,Spectre
For those of you who are not familiar with this stuff, I think I can provide some help. These are things that the media is not willing to say.

These porn images are scanned photos taken from movies and magazines that are advertized in men's magazines.

They have been available for 10 or 20 years as magazines or films or movies.

Some internet site has these files on the website that they scanned and placed in graphic files.

You download them and they are put in folders by TYPE.

Even if the website doesn't put them into folders by type (it should, most things on websites are grouped into folders when there are that many images), there are other explanations for their being organized into folders named as per the testimony.

(1) the adolescent did it. Downloaded the files, then copied/zipped them to the zipdisk
(2)The adolescent got the zipdisk as a copy from someone else that had downloaded it.

#2 is the most likely, as these files were on a ZIPDISK. This indicates they were compressed. They have to be uncompressed to be viewed.

64,000 plus files is a lot of images files.

Another explanation is that there are websites where you can choose to download a library of images and you will get porn you did not ask for. And another is there are some websites you can log on to and there is a provision to have them download everything they get to you. Again, you don't know what you will get. These last explanations are not the likely versions of what happened as you would have to copy/zip the images files to the zipdisk.

The police are trying to establish a link in the minds of the jury, and the public, that because Westerfield was a neat freak, that is proof the 100 or so images on the ZIPDISK were for his prurient pleasures, because he was compelled (because of being a neat freak) into putting them into folders, and giving the folders names that applied to the type of images to be found in them.

BOY, IS THAT ONE LONG REACH!, but the public swallowed it whole.

179 posted on 05/02/2002 8:55:39 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Good point. Someone posted on another forum that for a small fee you could download the pre-selected (not your choice) files that would unzip and creat their own subdirectories. OTOH, you have to execute them to do that, it wouldn't be difficult to put them on a zip disk or cd.

Testimony in the PH disputes the mr-clean-ocd-anal-retentive-neat-freak story. I wondered what constituted that. Did David have a maid come in? Was it because he was, at least most of the time the only one living there and gone alot, so nothing got messed up? The bleach stories were fabrications. The closest it comes to the bleach is the pool chemicals. JMO

180 posted on 05/02/2002 9:03:53 PM PDT by Jaded
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