Agitation At LA Times...

Toogood Reports ^ | 4/23/02 | Patrick Mallon

[marktwain]

This is good news. When people can see an alternative to the leftist, elitist, controling media, they will pay for it.

[mcenedo]

Could this be true?

Any distribution stats to support?

How about other liberal rags? NYSlime? WashCompost?

[Savage Beast]

"...most people are heavily influenced by propaganda..."

That Walter Lippmann--what a journalist! What a teacher! What a profit. His "heirs" certainly learned that lesson well!

I wonder. Did "Allred and Taylor" by any chance receive a call from someone named Matt Drudge? Just wondering.

[okie01]

All the major metro newspapers are losing readership.

The LATimes was down to a daily average of 972,956 for the six months ending 9/30/01 (source: Audit Bureau Circulation).

The last figures I saw also had the LATimes experiencing the largest percentage loss among the major metros, as well. It was a shocking figure -- something like -6% vs same year-ago period.

[InterceptPoint]

Count me among the many who has given up on the LA Times. I read the Times every morning for over 40 years and walked away without even looking back. Over the years I watched objective reporting completely disappear in favor of the leftist-socialist-politically correct bias that is the operating philosophy of what was once a great newspaper.

I too am amazed that the the networks and the big city newspapers like the LA Times are willing to drive their business into the ground rather than give up their leftist bias. You have to wonder who is really in charge at these companies.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

"All the major metro newspapers are losing readership. "

Good. A waste of perfectly good trees anyway.
Although, my doggie does love pi$$ing on the Boston Globe.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Riordan, ever mindful of how the Times covered for favorite son Gray Davis as Davis threw millions into the GOP primary to savage Riordan, is ready and able to take a couple years loss on a new conservative alternative newspaper, knowing full well there is an attentive and frustrated market of readers.

Oh -- Payback time, way to go Dick!!

Wonder if he can move fast enough to have an impact on the Fall Elections?

[Shermy]

I read it over the internet. It's amazing advocacy journalism/propaganda - "fairness" being the citation of "two sides" when their may be many, and the conservative/moderate/even liberal view point that doesn't fit with P.C. is always denigrated with excessive "but so and so says." It's unreadable, espeically the opinion articles, which are generally insipid "left-right" type pieces.

Internet is the way to go.

[Selara]

Thanks for posting this. On a Muslim/Christian board I use, one of the Arab's extensivly quotes the LA Times. A few of us tell him it is a piece of trash, but when one of the darlings of liberalland say it's a piece of trash...well, I just have to laugh.

[Imal]

My spouse and I don't buy newspapers anymore, and haven't for years. Why pay for trash when you can get real news on the Internet for free?

The legacy press habitually and condescendingly pooh-poohs the Internet as unreliable, but in my nine years on the 'Net, I've found it much more reliable than the print media. In both cases, the reader must beware.

But where the rags lose is technologically: it's much easier to search for topics of interest on the 'Net, and to find corroborating sources. Punching a few keys and clicking with my mouse sure beats thumbing through newspapers and getting cheap ink on my fingers.

Imal

[Torie]

To keep up its circulation, the LA Times is basically delivering the paper to me for free. I pay 4 dollars a month for daily delivery. I don't think I am a profit center. Most of the issues alas go into the trash without being read. I simply don't need the Times much anymore.

[William Tell]

Shermy said [of the LA Times]: "I read it over the internet. "

When you purchase a newspaper, the money you pay provides about half of the revenue for the publisher. The other half comes from advertisers who provide revenue to the publisher which is related to the circulation figures.

By accessing the LA Times on the internet and exposing yourself to their ads, you are providing "hits" which help the newspaper earn revenue. You are only denying them half of the money you could be denying them.

Now go out and do the right thing...

[Grampa Dave]

This is something I have never understood about conservatives buying a fishwrap that trashes their belief and values system or watchin left wing news on tv.

This should become our rally point to encourage conservatives to cancel the Slimes and other maggot infested fish wraps.

Money is too valuable these days, so why spend it on an instrument that will not only leave you feeling angry, but empty? And, why would newspapers like the Times continue as is, seemingly indifferent to the emerging growth of countless intelligent alternatives?

Where I do disagree with the writer in his claim that these maggot infested fishwraps are not liberal. He claims that it is the difference in culture.

Well, Mr/ Mallon, you and Rush and others can claim that these maggot infested fish wraps are not liberal and biased to the liberal side and it is a cultural thing.

They have that cultural bias because they are liberal. The two go together like Siamese Twins attached at the hips and all vital organs. There is no separation nor difference. The owners, publishers, editors and even pressitutes are liberal and culturally biased against us!

Regardless just cancell your subscription to the left wing biased and cultural biased fishwrap. Send half of the monthly savings to elect Simon and the other half to Free Republic for a triple win.

[farmfriend]

Wonder if he can move fast enough to have an impact on the Fall Elections?

I'm just hoping it will spread north.

[brat]

"I too am amazed that the the networks and the big city newspapers like the LA Times are willing to drive their business into the ground rather than give up their leftist bias. You have to wonder who is really in charge at these companies."

Ditto! I'm glad they're finally getting their comeuppence! The Craps have pushed too hard with their extreme agendas! Reports from back East are of massive disillusionment with the party....now if they'd just turn Conservative! LOL

[Euro-American Scum]

Although, my doggie does love pi$$ing on the Boston Globe.

Careful. You could be arrested for cruelty to animals. -:)

[monkeyshine]

I heard on the Larry Elder show today, also on KABC AM 790, that 60,000 people showed up in a valley park to hear Governor Davis, GOP nominee for Governor Simon, LA Mayor Hahn and Alen Keyes speak on the Israel/Palestinian issue on Sunday.

On Monday, the LA Times didn't even mention the event.

The Times is a disgrace to this city. As Larry Elder said, they didn't even cover it as a political event featuring the 2 candidates for governor. The freaking mayor of the city addressed 60,000 people in a park, and the only newspaper in the city didn't cover the story.

It's time to take out the trash. Trash the Times.

[monkeyshine]

I dumped the times a couple of years ago, not long after I found FR. I moved to a new house and cancelled my sub. They call me every couple of months to ask if I would like to get the Times at the same deal they offer you. I politely tell the telemarketer that I don't like their newspaper. I could be rude like I am with other telemarketers, but I prefer to make sure that each time they call me, they get the same "I don't like the L.A. Times, I think it's a very bad newspaper" answer every time.

[monkeyshine]

I agree with you Grampa Dave. The author does miss the mark on that one... the "cultural elitism" he describes is neoliberalism to a tee. They are condescending, elitist, and protective of their beliefs/ideology without regard to fact or measurable achievement. That's the perfect description of the new liberal.

The lesbian former president of the LA chapter of NOW, Tammy Bruce, summed it up as the title of her new book, "The New Thought Police" (IIRC). Even she knows that these "new liberals" are anything but liberal.