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Learn the Facts about Hunting
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Posted on 04/08/2002 4:23:46 PM PDT by Sungirl

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To: RWG
Oh... and I can't bring home meat for the freezer from those places either.

In fact there is a hunting group that ministers to those people. Check it out:

www.fhfh.org

301 posted on 04/10/2002 8:18:44 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Terriergal
I will not argue with this noble effort. Has all the best elements of help: animal population control and feeding the hungry. But the caricatures of hunters I once served when I worked part time as a bartender in a tavern in a little hunting town in North Central Washington State certainly shades my opinion of people who will spend thousands of dollars to get $50 worth of meat. I raise Rheas (cousins to the Ostrich) for meat so I recognize the necessity of food animals. My disdain for hunting comes from the pathology of some of those who do hunt and do so just to kill something for no purpose other than to kill it.
302 posted on 04/10/2002 8:34:44 AM PDT by RWG
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To: Sungirl
Some of the best bird watching I have ever done, is sitting in a boat with a 12 guage across my lap, a black lab retriever in the boat and thousands of snow geese just out of gun range. Some of the nicest times in the woods I have had are taking a nap at mid-day during a deer hunt with no one around for miles and being wakened by the sounds of birds moving my way in advance of an animal walking toward me. It has given me pleasure to go hiking in the mountains with non-hunters who stop to take a picture and say that is beautiful, have me agree and point out the deer 50 yeards away standing still that they had not seen.

Most people expect nature to provide them with an MTV experience and are disappointed. Another problem with most American's today is that they have no concept of what it takes to provide themselves with food. They don't really understand that milk doesn't come from plastic jugs. They have no concept that cows need to get pregnant, that they need to be taken care of, that someone needs to milk the cows on a regular basis. People think that "meat" comes in nice little plastic trays. They don't understand that the hamburger or chicken was once a living breathing animal, that was cared for, killed, and butchered, before it was placed in a plactic tray. If you asked most people what a potatoe plant looked like they might say a McDonald's Golden Arch.

People in the US are very, very fortunate to have the food that they do. People in this society need an exerpience at least once in their life to grow some of their own food in gardens and to kill some of their own meat, otherwise the will have no appreciation or understanding of what it means to be blessed by such a bountiful harvest.

Contrary to the information published in your post, hunting is a great opporutnity to get out into nature. To be successful in hunting, one also needs to shed many of the trapings of civilization and get in tune with the ways of nature. Whether one is setting up a string of duck decoys based on winds and current or whether one is blending in with nature and learning to be quite while hunting deer, hunting, if done properly, is an opportunity to be at one with nature in a very special way and the bring the cycle of life and death and the food supply into a new focus.

What seems to be the focus of the article is an image of hunter as someone who never goes in the woods, except for one weekend a year and then does so 500 to 1000 miles from home having huge travel expense. Such hunting is not usually productive as the hunter has little understanding of the area and the habits of the native animals. Hunting is a dying practice in this country, just as are backyard gardens, fishing, and outdoor skills acquired in real wilderness camping. These changes in shared experiences are changing our culture in ways that most of us do not understand. I for one think that this society would be better off with more people who know firearms, firearm safety, hunting skills and wilderness skills.

303 posted on 04/10/2002 8:42:18 AM PDT by Robert357
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To: RWG
:)
305 posted on 04/10/2002 9:56:25 AM PDT by Sungirl
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To: Sungirl
I am sure alot of you know what I mean by laser

Actually, we don't. You keep insisting something is a "laser" when it plainly isn't. "Red dot scopes" do not use lasers. "Laser sights" are not "red dot scopes". "Laser scopes" don't exist.

pretend your killing something all the time...it's in your blood to kill.

How insulting. You, who preaches compassion, so easily stoop to the opposite thereof.

I also want to add that as exciting as it is to receive PRIVATE freepmail from me ( and I can understand how you would be shaking uncontrollably..frantically fumbling to let it be known by all your peers).....the fact that you posted it shows lack of character and respect for rules.

I have no idea what you're referring to.

this just adds to my list and proves that a percentage of hunters lack compassion, ability to follow rules and cannot control their need to kill things that of no threat to them.

Using words without following their definition...insulting normal people as psychotic killers...accusing people of posting messages they never received...you, m'am, are one disturbed individual. Get counseling.

306 posted on 04/10/2002 11:31:08 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Robert357
Good post.

IMO the article wasn't focusing on a subset of hunters who may be cretins, but rather attempting to paint the sport with that stereotype.

307 posted on 04/10/2002 3:11:08 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: ctdonath2
Lasers are illegal where I hunt. I don't think that's unique.
308 posted on 04/10/2002 3:13:56 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: skull stomper
Ok SKULL STOMPER... whatever you say.
311 posted on 04/10/2002 3:43:28 PM PDT by Sungirl
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To: ctdonath2
I also want to add that as exciting as it is to receive PRIVATE freepmail from me ( and I can understand how you would be shaking uncontrollably..frantically fumbling to let it be known by all your peers).....the fact that you posted it shows lack of character and respect for rules.

I have no idea what you're referring to.

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SOrry...it wasn't you...it was your other buddies.(below)

Would you ever post private freepmail? =====================================================

To: SJackson
Case in point. Here is her FReepmail that she sent me: "YOu should learn to read and comprehend. I am far from being left...your whole post makes you look like idiot you protray me as. I wish you so called conservative hunters would take the time and read something. If you want to kill soemthing for the hell of it and teach kids to kill animals at will.....you have a screw loose too. You guys are so unbelievebly defensive and ignorant. LOL!! "

262 posted on 4/9/02 2:12 PM Eastern by PatrioticAmerican
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I will post any FReepmail I receive to a thread as I see fit.

436 posted on 3/27/02 10:49 PM Eastern by Gun142
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(AND HE DID...POSTED MY PRIVATE FREEPMAIL AND WAS PROUD)

312 posted on 04/10/2002 4:09:37 PM PDT by Sungirl
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RE:#209

Aw shucks...I read all 311 posts (even Sungirl's idiotic blathering - that was painful...made me want to hurl) and now you've forced me to do this:

A moose bit my sister once...

;^)

313 posted on 04/10/2002 4:10:37 PM PDT by Abundy
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To: chance33_98; cheesewatch; moosewatch
ping...
314 posted on 04/10/2002 4:13:20 PM PDT by Abundy
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To: SJackson
IMO the article wasn't focusing on a subset of hunters who may be cretins, but rather attempting to paint the sport with that stereotype.

Well said

315 posted on 04/10/2002 4:14:21 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: skull stomper
Yawn ... I've been around with SG on this topic before stomper ... and it is a perennial project of hers. All I can say is that she will never the know the pleasures of hunting and fishing. She will never understand that animals were put on this Earth for man's use and stewardship. Instead of knowing that you can provide for oneself and family, she will stand by wringing her hands, box of Kleenex nearby, making the animal on a par with a human. This will go no where ... she is entrenched ... she does not listen. You are right stomper ... we will go on, teach our children the wonders and ethics of hunting and fishing. We are survivors. She would die in a heartbeat out here in your neck of the wildwoods ... wringing her hands.

"When people talk, listen completely. Most people never listen." Ernest Hemingway

316 posted on 04/10/2002 4:15:52 PM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: skull stomper
You have FReepmail &;-)
317 posted on 04/10/2002 4:17:58 PM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: Sungirl
"Animals were put in our hands because we are supposed to have compassion"

Walt Disney has spoken .... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

318 posted on 04/10/2002 4:32:17 PM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: Sungirl
You still have not ansewered the question. Are you scared?

Here it is again: And remember - Hunting is closer to the natural process than anything you buy at the store!

How much more in-humane is chicken farming over hunting! Or the terrible lives Fish must endure in the fish farm....

Have you any clue what you speak of? I mean really? Hunting is closer to the natural process than anything you buy at the store! JEEZ

If you eat any meat at all you are a hypocrite and I would like to know that.

319 posted on 04/10/2002 4:36:07 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777
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To: Sungirl
Does anyone have a good book recommendations for Elk Hunting?
320 posted on 04/10/2002 4:37:13 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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