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To: Reagan Man
I guess what this comes down to is pretty simple -- the Koolaid Brigade doesn't see anything wrong with compromising away the Constitution. The rationale is that the Supreme Court will cover our @sses for us, so we can sign anything we want as long as we can get some political advantage from it.

Sorry, but that's just never going to work for me.

311 posted on 03/29/2002 8:02:32 PM PST by ModernDayCato
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To: ModernDayCato
I'll not vote for Bush if he does indeed betray the cause but I view this as a war. If we retreat on a battle field and the solidiers say we're defeated lets go home; then no war could have ever been won. I see Bush signing a bill that will be killed in court or never enacted visa his recess appointment to enact the bill. I see him taking an issue out of Democratic campaign slogans and befuddling the Democratic party.

I see him appointing big-time conservatives in recess appointments. I see us gaining back an edge in the judiciary which dictates the morale compass this country follows.

Unless he totally caves in this war then I'd not vote for anyone but him; because the alternative is too frightening. I think its ridiculous to hold someone in this war between the parties to such a high bar; there is a reason no TRUE PUBLIC conservative could be elected in the election.

You people need to chill for a few months and the re-evaluate the fallout.

317 posted on 03/29/2002 8:08:01 PM PST by Naspino
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To: ModernDayCato
Sorry, but that's just never going to work for me.

And so you will be moving to what country shortly? You need to realize Bush IS president, whether you like it or not, he's who we have, and nothing you can type in a box on the internet is going to change that. So I say you should just opt out, stop thinking about politics, and let the rest of us keep the world free while you sit on your duff and whine.

You're going to be mightly miserable the next three years.

324 posted on 03/29/2002 8:11:38 PM PST by Howlin
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To: ModernDayCato
The Koolaid Brigade?

And we were doing so good and you had to go and spoil everything.

I'll leave you with this thought.

Politics has been part of American history, since the days of the Founding Fathers and even before. People forget, the Founders were politicians at heart. How do you think they reached a final draft on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? They negotiated and they compromised. The Founders appreciated politics and knew how to play political hardball with the best of them.

President Bush hasn't compromised away the Constitution. Get real!!! Such rhetoric is way outta line.

325 posted on 03/29/2002 8:11:46 PM PST by Reagan Man
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To: ModernDayCato
The rationale is that the Supreme Court will cover our @sses for us, so we can sign anything we want as long as we can get some political advantage from it.

Looks like some are slow learners. You never let one branch of government get by with subverting the Constitution much less two of them then on the chance a yet third branch {who's record is at best poor on such matters of the Constitution} stop tyranny. Didn't the Impeachment of Clinton teach anyone anything?

The bill as written should have never left congress. I'll go further it should have died in comittee. Yet it made it not only past two houses but POTUS as well. We have been in a Constitutional crisis for nearly 4 years now with two of three branches out to lunch on upholding their oath to defend the Constitution.

I do have to wonder if this law was written to kill every first born male child if the people would be willing to wait on the USSC? Or better yet kill their first born male as it has become law until USSC decides if it will even hear the case at all and overturn it as being UnConstitutional? This was dangerous precedent on the part of congress and POTUS. People it seems forget a trial or challange of this law in no way means the USSC will even bother to hear it at all.

No were not talking about first born males. But we are talking about the 1st ammendment as we know it to be. We are gambling away our childrens future in hopes the USSC will bail out bad judgement {in the very least} on the part of two branches of governmnet who swear an oath to do better than that.

But to make my point very clear we indeed daily kill our first born males with the blessing of the USSC. We call it abortion. Yet the right to LIFE/ Liberty, and persuit of happiness is the declaration foundation of our nation. How much further do we lower the standard? Better yet is there a standard left to lower in our government?

351 posted on 03/29/2002 8:26:19 PM PST by cva66snipe
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