[VRWC_minion]

Let me take your argument from this side -- what would you suggest -- work the system from the inside? Knock yourself out.

I have taken your point of view for now and I see no action that is appropriate. Heck even trying to convince someone else that Bush sold us out isn't worth doing because, well, he already sold us. There is nothing left to redeem if he sold us.

So, upon adopting your view point there is no hope for any acceptable outcome therefore there is no point in a) worrying about voting b) worrying about how Bush takes care of any issues c) worrying about whether liberals continue to gain power.

Its all over. Lets just graciously hand over the Keyes (pun intened) to the Liberals, shut off the lights in CA, and go home.

[ModernDayCato]

First off, you've taken an exaggerated version of my point of view.

Heck even trying to convince someone else that Bush sold us out isn't worth doing because, well, he already sold us. There is nothing left to redeem if he sold us.

Not a bad point.

Seems to me its much easier to slam my point of view than advance yours. So, then, what now?