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President Bush Jokes About Signing Unconstitutional CFR Bill
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| Sunday, March 24, 2002
| Kristinn
Posted on 03/24/2002 8:22:33 PM PST by kristinn
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:10 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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The Washington Post reported today that President joked about signing the unconstitutional Shays-Meehan campaign finance reform bill passed by the Senate last week.
Bush, in a statement issued Wednesday night, had expressed misgivings about whether parts of the bill were constitutional but said that he would sign the bill anyway.
His decision to sign the bill has kicked up a firestorm of dissent in the conservative community, including a scathing editorial by The Washington Times and a letter from the American Conservative Union signed by 60 conservative leaders.
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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: shaysmeehan
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To: kristinn
It's a shame that President Bush cannot do the right thing which is not sign this bill. I will be leaning towards not voting for him in the next election.
To: kristinn
I hardly think making a joke about the Constitution is worthy of someone holding our nation's highest office. Especially when the comes to putting it above your craven political needs. And Mr. President, it seems to so many of us your actions belie conservative principles. You say you want us on board but apparently as long as we don't do anything to embarrass your staff's pursuit of Republicans without real convictions label. Good idea. If we stay home in November maybe that will provided a much needed wake-up call for the White House. If it still doesn't the party base will be certainly to reflect it in 2004. People may not care if you sign CFR, but they will certainly take offense if you and your people act like we're the crazy aunt in the basement.
To: over3Owithabrain
The only acceptable alternative to Bush
However, after only four days in office FreeRepublic is in an uproar and the perfect conservative has lost his entire base. When asked why, the 3rd party coalition that elected him says it broke apart when their perfect conservative contradicted himself and could not seem to make up his mind on which base was the real base.
To: kristinn
CFR isn't a dealbreaker with me, bt it's pretty close.
How in the world can you sign something that's UnConstitutional and then expect to the Supreme Court to play "goalie" and prevent serious damage from being done?
Signing this bill is risking the Bill of Rights for political gain.
It's gambling with our rights to avoid looking "bad"
How the hell is this consistant with the oath Dubya took to uphold the Constitution? It's literally Betting the First Amendment on a crapshoot.
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posted on
03/24/2002 9:17:21 PM PST
by
Jhoffa_
To: Mulder
Maybe Bush has decided to allow Daschle to be the Domestic President?
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posted on
03/24/2002 9:19:00 PM PST
by
GeronL
To: ZULU
why should he be the public bad guy? Because we will always remember how he signed a law that would be unconstitutional and how cavalier he is about giving away our free speech. This also goes for McCain, and all the others that voted against our free speech.
He may be trying to defuse a possible plan to use a veto as proof that Bush does not want campaign reform - look how he got into office - with the Supreme Court. But, this goes against the trust we have placed in him and in his word. It will take a long time to rebuild that trust when torn down.
My firm belief in Bush and his goals has been shaken by this action - I am disappointed.
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posted on
03/24/2002 9:19:54 PM PST
by
ClancyJ
To: Mulder
This leads to me to believe that there are "other reasons" for signing this bill. Basically, politicians of both parties seem hell-bent on taking away our Rights and eroding the Constitution. This seems to contradict your Occam's Razor theory.
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posted on
03/24/2002 9:19:58 PM PST
by
Dave S
To: KDD
The Patriot Act was the beginning of questionable actions by this administrationand Congress...
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posted on
03/24/2002 9:20:35 PM PST
by
GeronL
To: Texasforever
Well, I said Bush lost my trust and respect - and he has. But as long as you know I'll vote for him again next time instead of the Democrat, you're fine with that. I never said I was voting for any of the guys you've mentioned. Besides, who I choose to vote for or if I vote at all is up to me and my conscience. I'll weigh the options and the consequences, thank you. You shilling for Bush doesn't help him one bit.
To: ZULU
To: GeronL
Maybe Bush has decided to allow Daschle to be the Domestic President? Sometimes I find myself wondering if these guys (Bush, Lott, Daschele, Hastert, Kennedy, etc....) don't sit around behind closed doors drinking a beer, slapping each other on the back, and laughing about how they are so effective at pulling the wool over our eyes, when it comes to taking away our Rights.
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posted on
03/24/2002 9:22:01 PM PST
by
Mulder
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To: Aria
and a Republican might as well be the one to take away the issue from the Dems THE POINT OF ELECTING REPUBLICANS IS SO WE WON'T GET DEMOCRAT LAWS PASSED. Got it??
If the GOP is going to give the Democrats what they want, then why do we vote for them???
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posted on
03/24/2002 9:23:17 PM PST
by
GeronL
To: kristinn,All
To: Mulder
nobody outside this realm gives a rat ass about CFR. besides, Bush never had a true hardcore conservative base in the first place, if he had one, the 2000 election wouldn't be such a mess. CFR ain't "read my lips" because most people just don't care. RINOs? why don't people of their states vote them out of office? because they simply don't care. This is political reality, and Bush is playing along, and I don't have problem with that.
To: Jim Robinson
Bush said, "It will be a signature. I won't hesitate. It will probably take about, you know, about three seconds to get to the 'W.' I may hesitate on the period, and then rip through the 'Bush.'"
I think this was made up by the WP writer. We should demand to know if it is in fact true, from who ever we have to get the information from to confirm it is true or not. If it is not true then the WP needs a good freeping too. If it is true and President Bush said just what the WP said, he is a stained President which could just be the start.
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posted on
03/24/2002 9:24:33 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
To: Dave S
This seems to contradict your Occam's Razor theory In this case, the "other reason" is also the "simplest", although definitely not the easiest to want to accept :-)
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posted on
03/24/2002 9:25:31 PM PST
by
Mulder
To: patriciaruth
He's already starting nominating some more liberal judges, giving the Democrats what they want. Is that great or what?? Taking that issue away from Democrats... gee whiz
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posted on
03/24/2002 9:26:15 PM PST
by
GeronL
To: ClancyJ
Who does that leave us? McCain? Gore? Hillary? Sometimes one has to be pragmatic and make do with the best we can get at the moment. Bush is the best at the moment.
You can be sure, however, that George Bush II is no Ronald Reagan.
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posted on
03/24/2002 9:26:44 PM PST
by
ZULU
To: freekitty
It's a shame that President Bush cannot do the right thing which is not sign this bill. I will be leaning towards not voting for him in the next election.
I believe there will be a spiritual experience out of this human weakness moment and hopefully it will turn the patriots of America back to George W Bush and many hurt feelings mended. Somehow, God has a plan in all this and we have to be just a little bit more patient, but of course, we all want our cakes and ice cream right now, but sometimes that isn't how God works in a crisis moment such as this! Pray for our Commander in Chief as well as our President! Grassontop
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