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Smart Border: 22 point agreement
The White House Website ^ | Marrch 22, 2002 | The White House

Posted on 03/23/2002 4:28:39 PM PST by Love America or move to ......

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To: Shermy
The nerve of Bush saying this is astounding. Utterly Astounding.

Not as astounding as that he probably believes it.

21 posted on 03/23/2002 5:17:25 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: ZDaphne
sorry about the b. Yes, it's a word - economic-speak for "don't show the cost on our books, dump it on the people."
22 posted on 03/23/2002 5:18:45 PM PST by Shermy
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To: nunya bidness
Since President Bush and his political advisors love to triangulate the Dem position, we ought to see what they said too:
Of course, the Dems chose the seditionist Villaraigosa, a founder of MEChA and a believer in Reconquista, to represent their position.
23 posted on 03/23/2002 5:21:42 PM PST by flamefront
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To: RnMomof7
During NAFTA's first seven years, 15 million jobs were created in the United States.

During NAFTA's first seven years,

  • ...the Earth never failed to orbit the sun.

  • ... my heart continued to beat.

  • ..."Friends" and "The Simpsons" are still good for laughs.

  • ...the Major League Home Run record was broken twice.

  • ...a domed team won the Super Bowl.

  • ...a President was Impeached.

Did I miss anything?



Like "cause and effect?"

24 posted on 03/23/2002 5:24:06 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
And Nafta cause it all..Thank God for Nafta!
25 posted on 03/23/2002 5:28:14 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Uncle Bill

The Dirty Truth About NAFTA



U.S. trade surplus with Mexico in 1993 (the year before NAFTA): $1.7 billion

U.S. trade deficit with Mexico in 1996 (three years after NAFTA): $16 billion

Estimated number of U.S. jobs lost due to NAFTA as of October 1996: 625,000

Number of U.S. workers certified by the U.S. Department of Labor as having been laid off due to
NAFTA in one narrow NAFTA re-training program: 98,645

Approximate chances a laidoff U.S. worker will not find an equal or higher paying job: 2 to 1

Median annual pay drop of a worker who is hired after being laid off in the early 1990's: $4,420

Number of jobs lost in Mexico in 1995: 1,850,000

Number of Mexican maquiladora workers in July 1996 (thirty months into NAFTA): 761,705

Increase in Mexican maquiladora jobs since NAFTA's passage: 215,117

Number of jobs Allied Signal Chair Lawrence Bossidy predicted in 1993 his company would
relocate to Mexico under NAFTA: 0

Number of Allied Signal workers laid off since NAFTA's passage due to "shift in production to
Mexico," according to the U.S. Department of Labor: 708

Number of U.S. jobs created by Mattel due to NAFTA: 0

Number of U.S. workers Mattel laid off due to NAFTA, according to the U.S. Department of Labor:
520

Year Pendleton Woolen Mills was founded in Portland, Oregon: 1909

Year Pendleton Woolen Mills closed that plant and moved production to Mexico: 1996

Number of U.S. workers laid off by Pendleton Woolen Mills because of NAFTA, according to the U.S.
Department of Labor: 150

Number of workers laid off in a Pocohontas, Arkansas Brown Group shoe manufacturer because of
"increased imports from Canada" due to NAFTA, according to the U.S. Department of Labor: 2,400

Population of Pocohontas, Arkansas: 6,151

Approximate weekly earnings of television production workers in JVC's Elmwood Park, New
Jersey, plant: $360

Approximate weekly earnings of television production workers in JVC's Tijuana plant: $50

Number of U.S. JVC workers in Elmwood Park, New Jersey laid off by JVC's shift in production to
Tijuana: 198

Number of U.S. Zenith employees laid off due to a "shift in production to Mexico," according to the
U.S. Department of Labor: 510

Expected increase in the number of electronics plants in Mexico in the next four years: 400%

Change in buying power of Mexicans since Mexico joined GATT: -70%

Number of children in Mexico living in "extreme poverty", according to UNICEF: 9,000,000

Number of child laborers age 6 to 14 living in Mexico, according to UNICEF: 800,000

Percentage of Americans under the age of 18 who live below the poverty line: 20.8

Rank of the United States among all industrialized nations in the percentage of children living
below the poverty line, according to UNICEF: 1

Number of American children who are hungry or on the very edge of hunger: 14,000,000

Predicted ranking of occupation of cashier, among the top 20 occupations having the largest
numerical increase over the next decade in the US, according to the Department of Labor: 1

Percentage of Mexicans accounting for 70% of all Mexican consumer spending in 1996: 10

Mexico's 1996 global ranking in numbers of billionaires per country, according to Forbes: 5

Estimated number of Mexico's 92 million people who live on less than $5 a day: 40,000,000

Percentage of Mexicans polled in 1995 who said Mexican President Salinas (co-creator of NAFTA)
should be tried for treason: 90

Number of Mexican trucks crossing into Texas each day that carry corrosives, chemicals,
explosives, jet fuel, poisons, toxic waste and pesticides: 1,250

Estimated number of U.S. jobs in motor vehicle related industries lost due to trade with Mexico in
1995: 69,048

Amount invested by Chrysler in facilities in Coahuila, Mexico since 1994 (in U.S. dollars):
$300,000,000

Number of pregnancy tests female workers in Maquiladoras in the Mexican state of Coahuila must
take each year: 12

Percentage increase in Mexican factory workers' wages over the last two years: 50

Inflation rate over that same period: 100%+

Estimated dollar amount to fund essential border cleanup and infrastructure improvement,
according to the Sierra Club in 1993: $20 billion


Sources listed in March 1997 issue of the Multinational Monitor

26 posted on 03/23/2002 5:37:16 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Shermy
Once again, I've learned something from a fellow Freeper. Thanks for the response.
27 posted on 03/23/2002 5:39:26 PM PST by ZDaphne
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To: Love America or move to ......
When I see mention of razor wire, machine gun towers, and mine fields, I'll know we're taking border security seriously.
This BS in the hopes that the base buys it.
28 posted on 03/23/2002 6:06:24 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: Shermy
"During NAFTA's first seven years, 15 million jobs were created in the United States."

The nerve of Bush saying this is astounding. Utterly Astounding.

Or as some might say, "I know that NAFTA has created jobs - I've got three of 'em."

30 posted on 03/23/2002 6:10:15 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: Sabertooth
Is it too much to ask for deportation to even be on the list?

That depends on whom you are asking. If you ask INS Director Ziglar, Pres. Texmex, the Democratic Party leadership or Big Biz it is probably out of the realm of consideration. As far as I'm concerned, deportation is just the normal enforcement of the law, just like enforcing the speed limit, DWI Laws or State Criminal Codes etc.

31 posted on 03/23/2002 6:17:08 PM PST by Love America or move to ......
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To: Love America or move to ......
Warning to Bushbots: Do not click link below

This guy looks familiar

32 posted on 03/23/2002 6:24:37 PM PST by RodgerD
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To: Sabertooth
THX for ping....
34 posted on 03/23/2002 6:44:38 PM PST by umgud
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To: RodgerD
LOL!
35 posted on 03/23/2002 6:55:40 PM PST by dougherty
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To: nunya bidness
Here is what was once a nice little US border town which definitely has not benefitted from NAFTA or extreme immigration levels:

El Pasoans tell state of inequality in wages

Gary Scharrer
Austin Bureau

AUSTIN - One way Texas can help lift the border out of chronic poverty is to pay higher wages for government construction projects in border counties, El Paso County Attorney Jose RodrÌguez and others told a state Senate subcommittee Monday.

The Senate Business and Commerce Committee is examining wage disparities that, for example, pay a carpenter $18.60 an hour for a government job in Austin, compared with $7.96 in El Paso and Laredo.

El Paso has gone into an "economic dive" during the past 50 years, the Rev. James Hall, pastor of St. Thomas Aquinas Church and co-chairman of the El Paso Interreligious Sponsoring Organization, told the committee. In 1950, the average El Pasoan earned $104 for every $100 on the national scale, Hall said, and today, the typical El Paso wage has slipped to $57 for every $100 nationally.

Two of every three jobs in El Paso pay less than $10 an hour, which means less than the minimum living wage, Hall said. It's imperative that the public sector lead the way and set a trend for higher wages and benefits, he said.

In an amendment to a bill during the last legislative session, state Sen. Eliot Shapleigh, D-El Paso, got Texas to require higher pay for state jobs in border counties based on a complex formula of wages for similar work elsewhere in Texas.

The new law has increased the payroll on state highway projects by 3.5 percent in border counties, resulting in a corresponding decrease in road construction, Thomas Bohuslav, director of construction for the Texas Department of Transportation, told the commission. The costs of school construction also will dramatically increase, a spokesman for the association of builders and contractors said.

Sen. Troy Fraser, R-Horseshoe Bay, suggested that Texas taxpayers could save a lot of money if the state simply repealed its prevailing wage law, which now sets minimum wages for government construction projects.

EPISO and its sister organizations have made "living wages" a top issue and are still upset with Gov. Rick Perry for vetoing legislation last year that would have required border-area school districts to pay living wages at school construction sites.

"Any candidate who says they are pro family has to be in favor of living wages," Hall said after the hearing. "We're going to make it an issue in the fall (election campaign)."

The country's four poorest metropolitan areas are on the Texas-Mexico border.

"The state must take steps to reverse the negative economic consequences of maintaining a wage rate system for state public works contracts that discriminates on the basis of regional boundaries and prevents segments of the state from sharing in economic prosperity," RodrÌguez told the committee. "In the end, the state pays for its misguided policy through higher public assistance funding to economically depressed communities."

The state last year, for example, funneled $2.1 billion to school districts in the 14 counties touching the border because of low value tax bases in those property poor communities. It cost the state $621,546,714 to help finance public education in El Paso's nine school districts last year.

Gary Scharrer may be reached at gscharrer@elpasotimes.com From El Paso Times 3-19-02

36 posted on 03/23/2002 7:10:55 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Love America or move to ......
8.Pre-Cleared Travelers Expand the use of the Secure Electronic Network for Traveler’s Rapid Inspection (SENTRI) dedicated commuter lanes at high-volume ports of entry along the U.S.-Mexico border.

This is one of the more amazing things they have going on at the border ---electronic swipe cards can be purchased and no checks are made at all on the vehicle entering the US. It is exactly like those swipe cards used in parking lots. This way they save a lot of time and aren't inspected ---they can bring in anything they wish as long as they have that card to swipe and open the barrier.

37 posted on 03/23/2002 7:15:01 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Love America or move to ......
More about the dedicated commuter lanes ---

As El Paso expands toward the east, it's only natural that international bridges start handling more traffic. It's time for the Zaragoza Bridge to have a dedicated commuter lane.

The concept has worked well at the Downtown Stanton Street Bridge, which in less than two years has gained 4,500 registered users. Commuter lanes allow commuters to breeze through quickly, not wasting precious minutes in the normal, endemic traffic lines.

The commuter lane also eases the jobs of inspectors and has some salutary effect on the lines that plague international bridges and lead to long delays, increased air pollution, lost productivity and intense frustration. As the commuter lane Downtown becomes more saturated, some traffic will naturally shift to the east. That, combined with the city's growth, makes a commuter lane at Zaragoza necessary. Another plus is that the concept has the approval of Mexican transportation officials.

38 posted on 03/23/2002 7:20:37 PM PST by FITZ
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To: TomGuy
, won't infringe on the INS personnels afternoon naps

I believe you are referring to the siestas for INS personnel. we mustn't use to much anglo phrasing nowadays.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

39 posted on 03/23/2002 7:26:07 PM PST by harpseal
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To: nunya bidness
The Dirty Truth About NAFTA

There ya go, raining on the free trade parade. The congresscritters enjoyed NAFTA so much they are going to shove the FTAA right up our collective fourth point of contact for an encore. After all, us dumb peons laboring in the fields of the global plantation don't know whats best for us, our third way public/private godgov does.....BOHICA.

Regards

J.R.

40 posted on 03/23/2002 7:50:48 PM PST by NMC EXP
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