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"President of the United States Wants To Grant Amnesty Up To 4 Million Illegal Aliens"
THE REAGAN INFORMATION INTERCHANGE ^ | October 29, 2000 | Senator Orrin Hatch

Posted on 03/17/2002 7:41:17 PM PST by Uncle Bill

"PRESIDENT Wants to GRANT AMNESTY to 4 Million ILLEGAL Aliens"

THE REAGAN INFORMATION INTERCHANGE - Michael Reagan
U.S. Senate
FR Source
October 29, 2000

NO FIGHT LEFT

Mr. HATCH. Mr. President, I rise to make some points that need to be made at the end of the session.

Here we are, running right up against election time, and we are being held hostage because the President of the United States wants to grant amnesty to up to 4 million illegal aliens, people who haven't played by the rules, haven't paid the price, who literally want to jump over those who have played by the rules and who belong here--this blanket amnesty all for the purpose of politics.

In fact, I heard one of the leading Democrats say: Boy, Telemundo and all of the Hispanic newspapers are really playing this up.

Well, that might be true in the Hispanic media, but I think Hispanic people in this country want fairness above everything else. I think they know what is going on here. They know darn well they are being played, and they are being played in a vicious way.

I once again urge President Clinton not to veto the Commerce-Justice-State appropriations bill the Senate passed on Friday.

President Clinton has threatened a veto because we did not include his so-called Latino Fairness Act. But we have included something much better than his Latino Fairness Act: the Legal Immigration Family Equity Act, the LIFE Act.

This act reunites families and restores due process to those who have played by the rules. Our proposal does not pit one nationality against another, nor does it pit one race against another. Our legislation provides relief to immigrants from all countries, not just special countries. A veto of CJS would be a blow against immigrant fairness. But a veto would do far more than that.

A veto would cut off funding for some of our most important programs. The CJS appropriation allocates $4.8 billion for the Immigration and Naturalization Service and an additional $15.7 million for Border Patrol equipment upgrades. It provides $3.3 billion for the FBI and $221 million for training, equipment, and research and development programs to combat domestic terrorism. We are not playing around here. This is important stuff. I don't think it is right to be playing politics with the lives of immigrants at the end of the session just to obtain some cheap political advantage.

There is $4.3 billion allocated for the Federal prison system in CJS. That is money we need to run the prison system and to treat people with due process. Then we have $1.3 billion for the Drug Enforcement Administration. This is critical to our fight against illegal drugs in this country. There is $288 million for the Violence Against Women Act. That is legislation that I have strongly supported and that provides assistance to battered women and children through a variety of different programs.

Actions have consequences. If President Clinton vetoes this bill, he is putting the public safety and well-being at risk both at home and abroad, all in an effort to play wedge politics. The President's veto threats ring hollow because this appropriations bill provides many proposals to help immigrants. The President himself has stated he wants to `keep families together and to make our immigration policies more equitable.'

This is exactly what our LIFE Act that we have in the appropriations bill does. Had the White House proposed this during President Clinton's first 7 years in office, he might have been able to develop a mandate to grant amnesty to millions of undocumented aliens, aliens who have broken our laws. But no such mandate exists.

The American people need to know that the INS, the FBI, and the Border Patrol are being brought to the brink of a shutdown because President Clinton wants Congress to grant amnesty for up to 4 million illegal aliens, people who haven't played by the rules.

When we fought the H-1B legislation on the floor, many on the other side pointed out the difficulties of legal immigrant families. They pointed out that children needed to be reunited with their parents, that spouses needed to be reunited with their husbands and wives. I said I would try to do something about that.

We realized there was a problem with the late amnesty class of 1982 who qualified for residency under the 1986 Act. We said we would try to do something about that, and the LIFE Act does. The American people are a fair people. The LIFE Act will take care of 1 million people who either don't have due process or who need to be reunited with their families. It takes care of them first rather than granting amnesty to up to 4 million illegal people who haven't played by the rules, which is what the President wants to do. Fairness dictates that we not grant amnesty to millions of illegal aliens when there are 3.5 million people who have played by the rules waiting to come to the United States. The President should remember this inequitable proposal and reconsider what he wants to do here.

Let me say a couple of other things. I have even let the White House know that to determine if there are further inequities we will hold hearings right after we come back at the first of the year, and we will find out what needs to be done to restructure INS, if necessary, to make sure they treat people with more respect. We will consider these people who President Clinton would like to help. But most of them are here illegally and without further information, we think they should not be jumped above or in front of these people who aren't here illegally or who have been waiting in line to be reunited with their families.

We brought both sides together in this LIFE Act and brought a variety of different people into this. But there are some people who don't want any immigration to our country. They may live in States that are overrun with illegal immigrants; at least some of them do. Others don't seem to care about any rules, and I suspect the President is in that category. But we have brought these people together in the LIFE Act to resolve the problems that were mentioned during the H-1B debate. By gosh, I think it is time for the President to sign this bill and get about doing the Nation's business. He should quit playing wedge politics with these issues that are highly inflammable and about which he can blame people in illegitimate and wrongful ways.

I have worked very hard, along with a number of others, to bring this about in a way that is equitable, fair, and takes care of those who first need to be taken care of, with promises to hold hearings to see if there are any others who need the help and fairness that we can grant. That is the best we can do this year. That is the best we can do at the end of this session. It is the best we can do in bringing people together.

I think we have done a good job getting it done, and I hope the President will go along with our proposal so we can continue funding the INS, the Border Patrol, the FBI, training and equipment research and development programs to combat domestic terrorism, the Federal prison system, and the Drug Enforcement Administration. We must enact the CJS Appropriations into law because it funds things that are absolutely critical to this country. Moreover, it makes it possible for 1 million people to get permanent residency, people who have been waiting in line, have paid the price, and played by the rules.

This is a front-page issue in the Hispanic media, but most Americans don't know what the President is trying to do because the mainstream media is not reporting this issue. The American people need to know what is going on here. I think it is a crass approach to play wedge politics at the end of this session, holding us hostage so we can't get home and campaign and do what we need to do. Right now, I would much rather be home in Utah than here in Washington. But as long as we have to be here, I am going to make these points to try to help all immigrants, including Hispanics to receive fair treatment by the INS and by our immigration policies.

I am a cochairman of the Republican Senatorial Hispanic Task Force. I started it a number of years ago to make sure Hispanics are treated fairly and that Hispanic issues are given the attention they deserve. We have done an awful lot in this area, and I think the LIFE Act is a very good piece of legislation that will take us far down the road. Additionally, we have made a promise to hold hearings next year to see if there are any other inequities that need to be remedied. We will be glad to do that.

We have 535 Members of Congress and a wide variety of viewpoints. I think we have brought them together in a way that will work and solve some of these problems.

I yield the floor.


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INS APPREHENSION INFORMATION

President Bush urged Congress to extend a deadline for illegal immigrants to remain in the United States while they pursue legal residency.

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Bush calls for relaxed immigration rules: 7-10-2001

"If we can find a way to move illegal immigrants into legal channels, we would enable the border patrol to focus on the bad guys coming across the border rather than the people coming across to work."
James Ziglar (1-202-514-1900)

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INS Website: Their Mission

Maintains control of U.S. borders. The Border Patrol is responsible for securing the 8,000 miles of international boundaries in vehicles, aircraft, or boats, as well as on horseback or on foot.

Identifies and removes people who have no lawful immigration status in the United States. The INS also works with other Federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies to uphold the laws of the United States. Source

George W. Bush and James Ziglar Still Support Amnesty and Section 245(i)

The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) says it has no plans to round up the 250,000 to 300,000 illegal aliens that it admits are still in the country even though they have already been ordered deported by federal judges - October 22, 2001

'Arab terrorists' crossing border: Middle Eastern illegals find easy entrance into U.S. from Mexico

"You're either with us or against us in the fight against terror."
George W. Bush - Source

"Latinos come to the US to seek the same dreams that have inspired millions of others: they want a better life for their children. Family values do not stop at the Rio Grande. Latinos enrich our country with faith in God, a strong ethic of work, community & responsibility. We can all learn from the strength, solidarity, & values of Latinos. Immigration is not a problem to be solved, it is the sign of a successful nation. New Americans are to be welcomed as neighbors and not to be feared as strangers."
George W. Bush - Source: Speech in Washington, D.C. Jun 26, 2000

INS Releases 35,318 Criminal Aliens
"U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) estimate that 11,605 – or roughly one-third of those released by the INS – went on to commit serious crimes including 1,845 violent crimes."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: amnesty; bush; clinton; hatch; illegalaliens; senate
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To: angry beaver norbert
Other reasons being this POS they call campaign finance "reform", and the shabby treatment too many Senators & Representatives give the Constitution, especially where the 2nd Amendment is concerned, letting states like The Peoples' Republik of Kalifornia totally ignore the thing. The "Bad American" letter a while back said, "if they don't leave the document alone, there's going to be trouble. I agree.
21 posted on 03/17/2002 8:17:48 PM PST by angry beaver norbert
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To: Registered; nunya bidness
Senators of Both Parties Support Permanent Extension of Section 245(i) Illegal Alien Amnesty

INS Plans Tp Free Long-Term Detaniees

Illegal Alien Onslaught: Aid flows to illegal immigrants

ILLEGAL ALIEN NOW SUSPECT IN 187 MURDERS IN U.S. AND MEXICO

22 posted on 03/17/2002 8:33:18 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill; Askel5
Corn beef and cabbage bump.
23 posted on 03/17/2002 8:36:51 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Uncle Bill
This has got to be a Council on Foreign Relations mandate of some kind. In other words done deal. From Cool Hand Luke - "If that's the way the CFR wants it, that's the way the CFR get's it."
24 posted on 03/17/2002 9:50:25 PM PST by The Bolt
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To: Uncle Bill
Has anybody here really read the bill? It't not an amnesty, it's an extension to those who are here legally, but the INS doesn't have the manpower to process their extension requests, PER LAW!.

I've been one of the most outspoken, albeit, senseable opponents to illegal immigration and runaway legal immigration for years (including protests on the streets of Los Angeles), but this seems good policy to me. Locate those we can, put those we invited here into a viable system of tracking, and at the same time restrict incoming visas and border crossings. This is all happening. Anyone want to argue nothing's happened at the borders should go take a look at the hours long wait to cross.

The INS and affiliated beaurocrats have a long way to go IMHO, but this actually makes sense to me. This is NOT amnesty, it's what the INS should have been doing all along - controlling the visa situation.

25 posted on 03/17/2002 9:54:15 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: RickyJ
I bet you never voted for President Bush! Your slogan sounds like something from the DNC!
26 posted on 03/17/2002 9:58:37 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: Uncle Bill
Michael Reagan is a fine one to talk about granting amnesty for illegals when his dad,President Reagan granted amnesty to illegals back in 1986.
27 posted on 03/17/2002 10:00:13 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: Lady In Blue
I not only voted for him, but I campainged for him as well.

Tell me, why do you STILL support this so called "conservative" president?

28 posted on 03/17/2002 10:05:09 PM PST by RickyJ
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To: A Navy Vet
Anyone want to argue nothing's happened at the borders should go take a look at the hours long wait to cross.

You can't deal with reality can you?

Oh nevermind I get it now, you're being sarcastic, right?

29 posted on 03/17/2002 10:10:00 PM PST by RickyJ
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To: A Navy Vet
Has anybody here really read the bill? It't not an amnesty, it's an extension to those who are here legally, but the INS doesn't have the manpower to process their extension requests, PER LAW!.

Once again...

Section 245 of the Act allows an alien to apply for adjustment of status to that of a lawful permanent resident (LPR) while in the United States if certain conditions are met. The alien must have been inspected and admitted or paroled, be eligible for an immigrant visa and admissible for permanent residence, and, with some exceptions, have maintained lawful nonimmigrant status. The alien must also not have engaged in unauthorized employment. Section 245(i) of the Act allows an alien to apply to adjust status under section 245 notwithstanding the fact that he or she entered without inspection, overstayed, or worked without authorization.
LINK.

Last week's 245(i) extension was specifically about Illegals.

Letting Illegals stay = Amnesty for those Illegals.




30 posted on 03/17/2002 10:11:08 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: RickyJ
I support this great president because he has so far done exactly what he said that he would do during the campaign and this despite the fact that the DEMOCRATS ARE IN CONTROL OF THE SENATE. I'm not a fair weather friend.Why should I be when he is only in his second year?!

Some so-call conservatives make me sick! The purer than anybody else and unless others do exactly what they say,they dessert their friends.

31 posted on 03/17/2002 10:12:58 PM PST by Lady In Blue
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To: Sabertooth
My apologies, I was working on the previous section 245. Insert foot...oh well, my first mistake for the year. Bummer.

On the up side, I am correct about the increase border security (have seen it), and with last weeks INS visa "snafu" you can bet that system is going to revamped, as has been posted here.

32 posted on 03/17/2002 10:19:12 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: A Navy Vet
Has anybody here really read the bill? It't not an amnesty, it's an extension to those who are here legally, but the INS doesn't have the manpower to process their extension requests, PER LAW!

I'm sorry but this is wrong. This is the Republican spin and is not true. The new bill extends the amnesty created by 245.

245 created a 3 year window for illegal aliens to apply to become legal. The three years is almost up and this bill extends that amnesty for 6 more months. The Republicans don't want people to know this, because the vast majority of Americans is against giving these criminals any more time.

To understand this you have to go to the original law which clearly states that it gives amnesty to the criminals. The new bill is constructed in such a way as to obscure that.

33 posted on 03/17/2002 10:20:29 PM PST by SUSSA
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To: A Navy Vet
I am correct about the increase border security (have seen it), and with last weeks INS visa "snafu" you can bet that system is going to revamped, as has been posted here.

I'll take what I can get, but until there are significant deportations from the interior, we have a de facto Amnesty anyway.




34 posted on 03/17/2002 10:21:40 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Lady In Blue
I support this great president because he has so far done exactly what he said that he would do during the campaign...

No he hasn't. He seems to care more about giving amnesty to illegal aliens than pushing for a ban on partial-birth abortion like he promised he would do. There are many other areas where he has broken promises as well, such as making sure criminals pay for their crimes. Clinton and company are sure paying for their crimes, now aren't they?

35 posted on 03/17/2002 10:23:49 PM PST by RickyJ
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To: Sabertooth
"I'll take what I can get, but until there are significant deportations from the interior, we have a de facto Amnesty anyway."

Agreed. I'm a proponent of most deportations. However, some cases require a little humanity, but those are a small percentage.

36 posted on 03/17/2002 10:26:27 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: Lady In Blue
The purer than anybody else and unless others do exactly what they say,they dessert their friends.

Bush was never my "friend." I voted for him because I didn't want Gore up there. I was praying he would actually do what he promised to do since he said he was a born again Christian.

37 posted on 03/17/2002 10:30:26 PM PST by RickyJ
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To: RickyJ
I was praying he would actually do what he promised to do since he said he was a born again Christian.

Oh the irony.

38 posted on 03/17/2002 10:39:15 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Lady In Blue
Party hack, mindless drone.
39 posted on 03/17/2002 10:44:14 PM PST by dougherty
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To: dougherty
Party hack, mindless drone.

Dale Carnegie?

40 posted on 03/17/2002 10:46:59 PM PST by Texasforever
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