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Town pulls money from HSBC; Bank's handling of Boy Scouts lease sends Throop's business elsewhere
Auburn Citizen ^ | 3/16/02 | Erik Sorensen

Posted on 03/17/2002 4:57:05 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

AUBURN (NY)- The town of Throop is taking nearly $700,000 out of HSBC bank and moving it elsewhere in response to the bank's decision to oust the Boy Scouts from space they rent in the bank's downtown offices.

The town board voted unanimously to withdraw the money after HSBC told the Cayuga County Boy Scouts that they would have to vacate their basement offices by June 30 because the Boy Scouts do not allow gay men as leaders.

Throop Town Supervisor Leo Herrling said there was little discussion, and no dissension, during the board's vote on Wednesday.

"The board decided not to deal with HSBC because of the Boy Scout situation," Herrling said. "We also felt that HSBC, being an off-shore bank which is out of Hong Kong and Singapore, we felt it was out of place that a bank, a commercial establishment, is drawing lines in the sand and taking sides."

Herrling said that the town has negotiated with several banks.

"It's just a matter of getting the checks printed and moving the money. It will be done as soon as we can."

Town Councilor Mike Tarby, who was elected in November, has a 7-year-old son, Ben, who is in the Cub Scouts, and Tarby himself is a Scout leader.

"We don't think the bank is being fair with the Boy Scouts," said Tarby. "I think the Supreme Court made a great ruling in saying that the Boy Scouts can make that call of not having homosexuals. And who is a foreign bank to come in and say otherwise?"

The city of Auburn may vote on a resolution Thursday that would withdraw its cash reserves - estimated at between $5 and $10 million, according to City Comptroller Bea O'Hora - from the local branch of the Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corp., Ltd.

Bill Jacobs, the lone Republican on the five-person city council, proposed the resolution at Thursday's council session. Jacobs called HSBC's action "a blatant case of discrimination."

Mayor Melina Carnicelli was unavailable for comment because she is out of town on vacation. Councilor Robert Hunter did not return a phone call seeking comment, while fellow Democrat David Dempsey said that HSBC had a right not to renew the scouts' lease.

"It's their opinion and I have no other comment about it," Dempsey said.

Democrat Tom McNabb said Friday that he was somewhat taken aback by Jacobs' proposal.

"I sympathize greatly with the Boy Scouts, no question about that, I don't agree that they should be tossed out," said McNabb, who stressed that complexities of any possible movement of money must be thoroughly examined for the well-being of the city's finances.

But officials in Throop wasted little time in switching banks after it was announced Tuesday that the Boy Scouts would have to find new offices.

"I was very angry, I was upset. The fact that this came out of a bank out of New York City, and being that it's affecting our community, which it is," Herrling said. "I feel strongly about the Boy Scouts. I was a Boy Scout at one time.

"The Boy Scouts are a private organization and they shouldn't be punished because of political correctness. Political correctness has gone overboard at this point."

Tarby worries what would happen if the Boy Scouts were forced to include gay scout leaders.

"I'm not discriminating against homosexuals, but if my son was in a troop and he had to go the house of one, I would have concerns about his safety," Tarby said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsalist; hbsc; pc; sasu
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
McNabb, who stressed that complexities ... of any possible movement of money

Must be a liberal. The only hard part about opeing a new account is waiting for Her Royal Highness the New Accounts "Executive" to hold court and fill in the x's on her computer screen in accordance with your instructions. That and sending the new checks back about 5 time until they get your name and address and account number correct.

22 posted on 03/17/2002 6:01:32 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: uncbob
I concede your point. He did use their language but maybe that is the only way to point out how stupid their position is. I prefer the direct language like yours but I don't think we were the audience?
23 posted on 03/17/2002 6:02:20 AM PST by mutchdutch
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"The city of Auburn may vote on a resolution Thursday that would withdraw its cash reserves - estimated at between $5 and $10 million, according to City Comptroller Bea O'Hora - from the local branch of the Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corp., Ltd."

. . .kudos to the community. . .

. . .'HSBC'. . .Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corp; who knew?

Given the China Banking scandal; hope all their money is there. . .

24 posted on 03/17/2002 6:03:15 AM PST by cricket
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To: cricket
https://www.banking.us.hsbc.com/secure/media_contact_us.asp Here is an email contact for HSBC
25 posted on 03/17/2002 6:04:46 AM PST by grammymoon
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26 posted on 03/17/2002 6:08:34 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Town pulls money from HSBC; - Good for them!!
27 posted on 03/17/2002 6:12:46 AM PST by Free_at_last_-2001
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Wonderful news and thank you for posting it.
My father worked for the BSA his entire life as a professional. I just emailed him this link.
28 posted on 03/17/2002 6:12:49 AM PST by MarMema
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Good Morning fellow citizens: If you wish to send an e-mail of support to the city of Throop, this may help. I was unable to verify yet if this phone and e-mail are correct (as it is now Sunday and no answer there) but following info is from their city website.

May God strengthen us all, G. “Dubya” Bush and America.

TOWN OF THROOP, CAYUGA CO. NEW YORK
For information contact
Kathleen Chuttey, Town Clerk
Melina Carnicelli, Mayor
Leo Herrling, Town Supervisor
Mike Tarby, Town Councilor
Office Hours:
Monday: 8:30 am - 1:30 pm;
Tuesday: 8:30 am - 1:30 pm, 7 - 9 pm
Friday: 8:30 am - 1:30 pm
Saturday: 9 am - Noon
Phone: (315) 252-7373
Fax: (315) 252-1311
Town Hall located at 7471 Robinson Road, Auburn, New York 13021

29 posted on 03/17/2002 6:28:51 AM PST by InkStone
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Capitalisim to the forefront! No louder vote can be heard than the vote of the dollar bill. Go Boy Scouts!
30 posted on 03/17/2002 6:32:21 AM PST by ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
oops - here's Throops email: throop@cayuganet.org
31 posted on 03/17/2002 6:35:27 AM PST by InkStone
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To: InkStone
Let's send em a nice word or two, eh ?
32 posted on 03/17/2002 6:38:29 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Since the bank is owned by Hong Kong interests, it's managers are really under the control of the Chinese Communist party.

That organization is so corrupt it probably wouldn't take very much to have the managers executed should they ever set foot in Big China or Hong Kong on a business trip.

No doubt they fear that a homosexual interest group has already made appropriate payments.

33 posted on 03/17/2002 6:43:12 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: conserve-it
Just why do all these clowns idolize a life style where males in general have thirty year shorter life spans? What planet are these people on. I wonder how all these pro homo straights would feel if one day their son who had been supervised by one of these gay(whatever that means)scoutmasters later developed HIV as a result of the scout master demonstrating some new scouting skills.
34 posted on 03/17/2002 6:44:12 AM PST by willyone
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To: willyone
Many people have bought into the lie that homosexuality is "just a lifestyle choice". This is what is being preached in our public schools with a FEDERAL mandate.
35 posted on 03/17/2002 6:49:40 AM PST by conserve-it
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To: willyone
Just why do all these clowns idolize a life style where males in general have thirty year shorter life spans? What planet are these people on. I wonder how all these pro homo straights would feel if one day their son who had been supervised by one of these gay(whatever that means)scoutmasters later developed HIV as a result of the scout master demonstrating some new scouting skills.

They could always use the tried-and true libbolefty charge: Ronald Reagan's to blame! (That helped explain D.C.'s rampant AIDS infection and crack addiction rates a little while back, didn't it? So why not have another go at it - it's the sort of thing that would make PERFECT sense to those wackos anyway. Lest anyone think this proposal is too outlandish even for libs, remember that they're the ones who convinced themselves that vile, disgusting faggotry is a "perfectly normal and acceptable alternative lifestyle choice"; hey, once they're over that hurdle, these numbskulls will believe anything!)

36 posted on 03/17/2002 6:55:19 AM PST by MarineDad
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
The city of Auburn may vote on a resolution Thursday that would withdraw its cash reserves

Sounds like it is time for the good citizens of Auburn to make their wishes known to their politicians. And, the good citizens can make their own statement by removing their own funds from the HSBC.

37 posted on 03/17/2002 7:10:21 AM PST by jackbill
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The Boy Scouts are going to put the Queers back into the Closet of Shame where they belong.
38 posted on 03/17/2002 7:15:54 AM PST by Texbob
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Good to see somebody taking action on behalf of the scouts...... it's about time.
39 posted on 03/17/2002 7:24:26 AM PST by Great Dane
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Hooray for Throop and the BSA. Let's help Auburn reach the right decision: mayor and city council email addresses Here

Let the town of Throop know we appreciate what they did Here

And let HSBC bank know that we don't appreciate what they're doing:

Kathleen Rizzo Young
First Vice President, Group Public Affairs
Media Relations

Office: 716-841-5003
E-mail:
Kathleen Rizzo Young

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40 posted on 03/17/2002 7:43:05 AM PST by JCG
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