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NEVER FORGET

...Bring HANKIES ...Take a DATE ...and see...

.."WE WERE SOLDIERS"..

...this weekend in its 3rd Week of Release.

...A True Story about the Way it Was back then ...for us all to follow now in a new -Time of War- in a new Century with an Enemy that is now Within.

The War has indeed Come Home.

Signed:

ALOHA RONNIE Guyer / Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 / IA DRANG S-1 Personnel Clerk / Landing Zone Falcon /

See the..'Ronnie Guyer Photo Collection'..

...thru ..'Ia Drang Misc'.. at the bottom right ..-Home Page-.. of our ..WE WERE SOLDIERS/7th Cavalry.. website:

.. www.LzXray.com ..

...And a Hearty GARRY OWEN, Sir (7th Cavalry Salute) 2-U-ALL

NEVER FORGET

1 posted on 03/15/2002 5:33:44 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Snow Bunny;68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub;VOA;Fred Mertz;Joe 6-Pack;Joe Montana;RonDog...
...Here's a .."WE WERE SOLDIERS"..

...GARRY OWEN 7th Cavalry Salute 2-U...

..-&-..

...have a Great Weekend at the Movies with the ones you...

...LOVE MOST.

ALOHA

3 posted on 03/15/2002 5:43:27 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Who is DAN ALTILIO? For a minute I thought you meant Danny Aiello. Who the heck is Dan Altilio? Some college paper reviewer?

I saw the film and thought it wasn't bad, but about 45 minutes too long.

4 posted on 03/15/2002 5:45:11 PM PST by Cagey
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Please post this in the general interest forum. This thread is locked.
7 posted on 03/15/2002 5:49:07 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Ping
8 posted on 03/15/2002 6:18:13 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: ALL
...RadioFR FreeRepublic.com OnLine Radio has scheduled a one hour...

.."WE WERE SOLDIERS"..

...Call-In Show at 7:00pm Pacific Time next Thursday, March 21st with...

..ALOHA RONNIE / Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 as your Host.

...What a great opportunity for us to Connect some more Dots together about Real American Heroes at Home and Abroad in -Time of War-...?

ALOHA

14 posted on 03/15/2002 6:33:13 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
This guy has to be the best actor in the history of acting because of his choices of material and presentation. I'm still haunted by Braveheart.
17 posted on 03/15/2002 6:37:40 PM PST by go star go
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To: ALOHA RONNIE,All
ALOHA RONNIE Guyer-Vet/Battle of IA DRANG-1965
asks that we sign this Petition for Tower 2 Lifesaver ..RICK RESCORLA


RICK RESCORLA's Picture graces the Cover of ALOHA RONNIE's Commanding Officer
Lt. Col. HAL G. MOORE's Bestselling Book about the Battle of IA DRANG-1965
where RICK's heroism is highlighted on -35- different pages..!


Click Here to sign the petition.

Petition to the President of the United States to bestow America's Medal of Freedom Award on New York City's Tower 2 Lifesaver Hero ..RICK RESCORLA..
ON SEPT 11TH IN SPITE OF BEING TOLD HIS BUILDING WAS NOT IN DANGER, HE IMPLEMENTED THE EVACUATION PLAN HE HAD DEVELOPED FOR HIS FIRM, MORGAN STANLEY. AS A DIRECT RESULT OF HIS EFFORTS THAT DAY AND HIS QUICK ACTION, OVER 2,600 EMPLOYEES WERE SAVED. MR. RESCORLA WAS LAST SEEN GOING UP TO RESCUE PEOPLE WHO WERE UNABLE TO GET DOWN.
HIS ACTIONS REFLECT THE VERY BEST ABOUT AMERICA,
ITS CITIZENS AND ITS DREAMS.

18 posted on 03/15/2002 6:37:47 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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Tribute To Vietnam Era Veterans....Welcome Home by Snow Bunny
19 posted on 03/15/2002 6:38:55 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Saw it twice, excellent.

It was interesting to me, as someone who hasn't been in a combat situation, to see what he battlefield looked like prior to the conflict...just a normal green firled that has grass that moves in the down draft caused by the helicopter blaades. Serene.

Those men are the soldiers of all wars, not special, but soldiers, as were the men who fought in WWII. Platoon is a cartoon.

Semper Fi. What happened to the asian soldier burned by napalm? Nakajima?

28 posted on 03/15/2002 7:50:24 PM PST by Benrand
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I saw it opening night. Just an unbelievable tribute to the brave men who fought in Vietnam.
29 posted on 03/15/2002 7:56:23 PM PST by oldvike
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...The Battle of IA DRANG-1965 is now playing on...

...The Learning Channel...

38 posted on 03/15/2002 9:28:37 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
'3BlackChicks Review...'



WE WERE SOLDIERS (2002)
Rated R; running time 136 minutes
Studios: Paramount Pictures
Genre: Historical Drama
Seen at: Celebration Cinema (Lansing, Michigan)
Official site: http://www.weweresoldiers.com/
IMDB site: http://us.imdb.com/Details?0277434
Written by: Randall Wallace (based on the book by
Lt. General Harold G. Moore and Joseph L. Galloway)
Directed by: Randall Wallace
Cast: Mel Gibson, Sam Elliott, Greg Kinnear, Barry Pepper, Chris Klein,
Ryan Hurst, Madeleine Stowe, Keri Russell


Review Copyright Rose Cooper, 2002
Review URL: http://www.3blackchicks.com/2002reviews/bamswws.html



I struggled all night last night, trying to figure out exactly how to
approach this review. I've decided to take out all the tangential
comments I wrote at first about these post-September 11 times, and place
them into a separate "Tangential comments on these post-September 11
times" sub-page (linked on the 3BC site) instead. My off-topic comments
muddied the issue of how I feel about WE WERE SOLDIERS as a film unto
itself - not a good thing, as I want to be perfectly clear on the issue.

I can't remember the last time I sat through what should've been a
rousing, emotionally-moving depiction of the horrors of war, and came
away not Moved, but instead disgusted at Hollywood's ham-fisted,
indulgent play-acting. Actually, I can remember just fine: THE PATRIOT.


THE STORY (WARNING: **spoilers contained below**)
WE WERE SOLDIERS is based on a true story about one of the first battles
of the Vietnam War, between the 450 men of the 1st Battalion, 7th
Cavalry (the same regiment number General Custer led to defeat) and 2000
Vietnamese soldiers, in the Ia Drang Valley: "The Valley Of Death". The
exploits of Lt. Colonel Hal Moore (Mel Gibson) and his men - including
crusty Sgt. Maj. Basil Plumley (Sam Elliot), chopper pilot Major Bruce
'Snakeshit' Crandall (Greg Kinnear), and new father Lt. John L.
Geoghegan (Chris Klein) - were chronicled by reporter Joseph Galloway
(Barry Pepper): the first generation Galloway in his family to be an
observer, rather than a participant, in an American war.


THE UPSHOT
I know I'm likely one of few who walked away from this film not moved
one bit by this Hollywood treatment of the horrors of the Vietnam War.
I respect what the actual soldiers went through, and very much
appreciate their sacrifices. I just don't buy anything this movie is
selling. Writer/director Randall Wallace and star Mel Gibson, in my
eyes, share the bulk of the blame for the lack of real feeling, buried
as it was, underneath all the showboating and special effects
blood-n-gore.

Gibson especially irked me, playing Colonel Moore as if he thought he
was still on the set of LETHAL WEAPON 10. There was absolutely no time
during the 136 minutes of this torturously-long movie, that I believed
anything coming from Gibson - other than he's a victim of his own
self-important hype. And that he should never, ever try to affect
another southern drawl again.

I take Randall Wallace to task for a myriad of things, not the least of
which includes his bizarre decision to make everyone except Colonel
Moore (in the field) and Julie Moore (at home) seem like afterthoughts,
as if they were pawns in a grand chess game that Wallace moved around to
make King Mel Gibson and Queen Madeline Stowe stand out all the more.
With the exception of the spiffy Sgt. Maj. Plumley (played by veteran
curmudgeon Sam Elliott) and Sgt. Savage (played convincingly by Ryan
Hurst), the characters were drawn as reactive caricatures with few
distinguishing marks; marionettes on a string for Gibson - and Wallace -
to Emote at.

Wallace continually took what should've been moving visuals, and turned
them into stiffly-choreographed, cardboard scenes. From Wallace's
images of pilot Snakeshit's constant wide-eyed, staring-at-the-horror
closeups, to his amateurish frames of photographer Galloway's Bold!
Statement! of tossing aside his gun and grabbing his camera, to his
giddy overkill use of special effects and CGI in a "ooh, we can make war
look real gross!" fashion, and especially to Mel Gibson's trademark
ability to never get as dirty as the soldiers around him (or was I The
Only One who noticed how very blue his eyes shone in the dark?), Randall
Wallace's directional choices just left me cold.

To be fair, I don't doubt that everyone involved with making WE WERE
SOLDIERS went into it with honorable intentions. But you know what they
say about the road to hell...and for me, it was some serious hell,
having to watch such a badly-staged movie playing at being Important. I
think the real Vietnam veterans deserved much, much better than anything
Wallace and Gibson had to offer. But I'm sure that's Just Me, howling
in the wind by my lonesome.



BAMMER'S BOTTOM LINE
Is it unpatriotic to say that I'm sick of war movies? I'd take the heat
that would come from me making such a blasphemous post-September 11
statement - if it meant I don't have to watch another bad rah rah
Hollywood designer war flick again.


WE WERE SOLDIERS rating: yellowlight



Rose "Bams" Cooper
Webchick and Editor,
3BlackChicks Review
Entertainment Reviews With Flava!
Copyright Rose Cooper, 2002
EMAIL: bams@3blackchicks.com
http://www.3blackchicks.com/

42 posted on 03/16/2002 7:57:19 AM PST by vannrox
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NEVER FORGET
44 posted on 03/16/2002 9:33:05 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALL
...Here's a .."WE WERE SOLDIERS".. Aloha 4-U...
46 posted on 03/16/2002 4:24:22 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: Snow Bunny;68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub;VOA;Fred Mertz;JoeSixPack;Ragtime Cowgirl;Judicial Watch...
.."WE WERE SOLDIERS ONCE and YOUNG"..

...Co-Author JOE GALLOWAY...

will be on C-Span TV tonight, Saturday Night, @ 10:26pm PT / 1:26am ET speaking at Annapolis about the Book, the Movie based on the Book and his own early experiences in the Vietnam War.

59 posted on 04/06/2002 9:05:46 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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