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Restoration of higher vehicle tag fees possible (California )
The San Diego Union Tribune ^ | March 15, 2002 | Michael Gardner

Posted on 03/15/2002 5:06:12 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

SACRAMENTO – Just two years after shaving the state's car tax, some influential Democrats are considering restoring higher vehicle license fees to help plug a potential $17.5 billion budget gap.

"Someone with a Mercedes gets a $400 break. Do they need the $400 or are you better off giving it to education?" asked Senate President Pro Tempore John Burton, D-San Francisco.

But resistance to the idea is building, and not just among conservative Republicans.

Gov. Gray Davis, a Democrat who has been weakened by his handling of an energy crisis and sour economy as he runs for re-election, has said he wants to avoid raising taxes. Chief budget writers for the Democratic majority in both houses of the Legislature also vow to deliver balanced spending plans without raising the fee.

But the state is in deep financial trouble, with a budget shortfall that may be too huge to fill by cutting programs and deferring bills to future years.

Raising the vehicle license fee to its historic level could produce $4 billion.

Once among the nation's highest, California's car tax has been pared by 67 percent over a three-year period. That has saved the average motorist $124 annually.

But the generosity doled out in boom years has come back to pinch lawmakers. As part of the rollback, the Legislature promised cities and counties, which receive most of the car tax, that any lost revenue would be replaced.

The outcome will be greatly influenced by whose budget projections are accurate. In January, Davis estimated the gap was more than $12 billion. More recently, the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst said the shortfall is up to $17.5 billion. More definitive figures will arrive in May.

Sen. Dede Alpert, D-Coronado, said lawmakers could avoid a hike if Davis' figures hold up. But they may have no choice if the gap reaches $17.5 billion, she said.

"You can't do it all with cuts and deferrals," Alpert said.

The car-tax debate also will be shaped by interpretations of an obscure section of the legislation that originally gave motorists relief. The section could trigger an automatic return to higher fees if the state is too broke to keep its commitment to repay cities and counties.

Legislative analyst Elizabeth Hill said clarifying legislation is needed to determine what constitutes a shortage of funds and who makes the call.

Burton said the trigger could restore the higher tax without any need for legislative action.

"You don't have to do anything. It just happens," Burton said.

That interpretation, however, bothers Democrats who don't want to see the vehicle license fee raised.

"We're not planning to mess with the VLF," declared Assemblywoman Jenny Oropeza, D-Long Beach, who chairs the powerful Assembly Budget Committee.

Oropeza has an ally in Sen. Steve Peace, D-El Cajon, who is chairman of the Senate budget panel. Peace said he has no plans to move a car-tax hike out of the committee.

"The votes aren't there," he said.

But that won't stop Assemblywoman Carole Migden from trying. The San Francisco Democrat has introduced AB 1753 to repeal the rollback.

"This rebate is an extra that few depend on. It pales in comparison to the problems we face," Migden said.

Though Democrats hold comfortable majorities in both houses, they need some GOP support to pass tax bills by the required two-thirds majority.

"The Republican caucus has never been more united than it is today" against tax increases, said Sen. Tom McClintock, R-Northridge.


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Here we go, the Democrats have to raise taxes to pay for Gray Davis's energy bonds!
1 posted on 03/15/2002 5:06:12 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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2 posted on 03/15/2002 5:08:38 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"This rebate is an extra that few depend on. It pales in comparison to the problems we face," Migden said.

Silly Wabbit. It's not a rebate. It's called lower taxes, Migden.

3 posted on 03/15/2002 5:14:39 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Someone with a Mercedes gets a $400 break. Do they need the $400 or are you better off giving it to education?" asked Senate President Pro Tempore John Burton, D-San Francisco.

What the F...????? That's not the proper question... but the answer is, "They may not need the $400, but it IS theirs whether they need it or not..."

4 posted on 03/15/2002 5:20:45 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Almost 50% of the state budget of California is used for EDUCATION. Just how much money is enough?
5 posted on 03/15/2002 5:26:14 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: CIB-173RDABN
"Just how much money is enough?"

100% of what you earn, just ask any democrap!

6 posted on 03/15/2002 5:30:35 PM PST by dalereed
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Almost 50% of the state budget of California is used for EDUCATION. Just how much money is enough?

You can blame the Cal teachers union and the stupid voters of the state that fell for their initiative a couple years ago. Another dumb vote was to lower the votes on bond issues from 2/3 to 55%. Eureka just passed a 42 million dollar bond to "repair the schools". Look out, this is coming to a town near you and your property taxes are headed up thanks again to the CTA.

7 posted on 03/15/2002 5:36:13 PM PST by tubebender
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"But the generosity doled out"

Sure. It's their money, not ours. So they "dole it out" very "generously."

--Boris

8 posted on 03/15/2002 5:37:37 PM PST by boris
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Remember when Davis and the Dems exempted California government school teachers from paying state tax? Why don't they just reinstate that tax, that would raise a lot of revenue. Why shouldn't teachers at the government schools pay their "fair share"?
9 posted on 03/15/2002 5:52:28 PM PST by cutlass
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Not until they have enough to evenly distribute it evenly to all of those who need it more than you - which will become you by definition.
10 posted on 03/15/2002 6:04:05 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Let's see Gray Davis' defend an increase in the car tax in a debate with Bill Simon.
11 posted on 03/15/2002 6:09:29 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Poor Grayout,, he can't find anything new to tax. Now he has to tax the tax. Nothing in view, including my view, has not had a tax on it - except my dog, Newt. (born on election day 1995)
12 posted on 03/15/2002 6:34:29 PM PST by seenenuf
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To: seenenuf
Gray Doofus. why does he look like ET?
13 posted on 03/15/2002 6:53:40 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: seenenuf
I see you are at the beach too !

Like the handle!

14 posted on 03/15/2002 6:54:15 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well, I hope they have their bags packed if they reinstitute that awful tax. That's what it is, a TAX on drivers. It's been way too high for years now and just when it gets reduced the democrats want to bring it back. They don't care - they are exempt! They are doing it because of the mess Gray Davis has created. Instead, why don't they just tighten their belts and give up a few of THEIR perks instead of punishing us!
15 posted on 03/15/2002 7:21:54 PM PST by CyberAnt
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Someone with a Mercedes gets a $400 break. Do they need the $400 or are you better off giving it to education?" asked Senate President Pro Tempore John Burton, D-San Francisco.

Why Prop 45 passed... Burton IS the problem and his ilk... who think that money IS evil and should be confiscated for the common good.

Burton makes GraYout DeViuo$ look virtuous... and that takes some doing, believe me
16 posted on 03/15/2002 8:52:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Do they need the $400 or are you better off giving it to education?" asked Senate President Pro Tempore John Burton, D-San Francisco.

I'm not the guy with the Mercedes, but excuse me, may I decide how to spend my money sir? California is be ruled by idiots. (and this is the country that sent a man to the moon - quote from my friend in Israel)

17 posted on 03/15/2002 8:54:06 PM PST by kickme
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To: NormsRevenge
Burton makes GraYout DeViuo$ look virtuous... and that takes some doing, believe me

You may be right about that!

18 posted on 03/15/2002 9:22:19 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: kickme
Well that is the battle we have with the Demoncrats!

Who is to decide what is best for the individual -- the state or the individual!

19 posted on 03/15/2002 9:24:19 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"But the generosity doled out in boom years has come back to pinch lawmakers."

Even the press thinks the money belongs to the government. What a shame.

It's not their money. Lowering taxes is in no way an act of generosity.

20 posted on 03/15/2002 9:35:26 PM PST by monkeyshine
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