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To: Cincincinati Spiritus
You didn't address my argument about the 13th Amendment, and holding the mother to involuntary servitude. I clearly stated that that was also part of the Constitution that could support a finding for the right of abortion. But the strongest part of the Constitution in favor of abortion is that it is silent on it, and therefore a power reserved to the States to find or not to find it a right in THEIR Constitutions. I find your entire diatribe specious.

A woman should not be forced to carry a rapist's germination to term. That is unconscionable and you should be ashamed of yourself for supporting such a philosophy.

377 posted on 03/27/2002 6:39:02 PM PST by H.Akston
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To: H.Akston
"You didn't address my argument about the 13th Amendment, and holding the mother to involuntary servitude. I clearly stated that that was also part of the Constitution that could support a finding for the right of abortion."

I do not think you understand the meaning of that word servitude. Moreover it is not involuntary. In most cases of terminated pregnancy, the sexual act that resulted in the pregnancy is voluntary. Therefore the consequence cannot be termed as an involuntary servitude in any way. At worst it might be termed a voluntary servitude. And many live in slavery to their own false opinions, more in slavery to their passions.

Pregnancy in many cases is an undesired consequence. Again, we solve the problem of unintended consequence by terminating the consequence, instead of addressing our own misdecisions resulting in that consequence. But the more important point is that the human life has no say whether or no it should be terminated. It is very convenient that it cannot assert its own right, and because it cannot it is very easy for us to say it has none. Yet never have I heard that a child under the age of five desired rather to die than live.

"But the strongest part of the Constitution in favor of abortion is that it is silent on it, and therefore a power reserved to the States to find or not to find it a right in THEIR Constitutions. I find your entire diatribe specious."

You are indeed a surprising man. Because the Constitution is silent on the matter it supports abortion? If it is silent, the more obvious reason is found in the ninth and tenth amendments. It is silent because, as you say, it is a matter reserved to states and municipalities or to individuals -- that is where the debate should be. However, the Supreme Court took away our right to rule ourselves in this matter.

"A woman should not be forced to carry a rapist's germination to term. That is unconscionable and you should be ashamed of yourself for supporting such a philosophy."

Come now, it not a philosophy. You give me too much credit. But do reread my post. I said that in the case of rape, should a woman obtain an abortion, the trauma mitigates, perhaps altogether, the action. Address the argument itself. Surprising man, to appeal to an antiquated notion of shame! Indeed if shame and honor had any place in our society still, there would be no contraversy over such a shameful act. How you turn the world and the argument on its head. Come now, who is shameful?

381 posted on 03/28/2002 4:25:31 AM PST by Cincincinati Spiritus
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