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To: FastCoyote; Jim Robinson; All
Well, it's easy to throw rocks while you sit in the penalty box.

Tell you what. I'll make a deal with you. Show me a truly libertarian society to evaluate and then I'll take libertarians seriously.

Besides, if you truly feel conservatives are "just a bunch of Democrats in drag," why are you consorting with us? If you are known by the company you keep, then, what does your being on a conservative news forum truly say about you?

Jim Robinson has aptly subtitled his site "A Conservative News Forum" , shouldn't you and the rest of your libertarian friends go and find your own forum? I mean, it's a CONSERVATIVE forum! What are you even doing here?

292 posted on 03/13/2002 5:06:24 PM PST by rdb3
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To: rdb3
Well, it's easy to throw rocks while you sit in the penalty box. Tell you what. I'll make a deal with you. Show me a truly libertarian society to evaluate and then I'll take libertarians seriously. Besides, if you truly feel conservatives are "just a bunch of Democrats in drag," why are you consorting with us? If you are known by the company you keep, then, what does your being on a conservative news forum truly say about you? Jim Robinson has aptly subtitled his site "A Conservative News Forum" , shouldn't you and the rest of your libertarian friends go and find your own forum? I mean, it's a CONSERVATIVE forum! What are you even doing here?

Obviously you have never learned to read (the Constitution for example), which contains both libertarian and conservative principles. For example, the Bill of Rights is entirely a libertarian principled addendum, it has zero roots in conservative thought. On the other hand, the very concept of a Constitution is conservative (versus a system of ad hoc laws developed at the spur of the moment). Moreover, I have stated here and elsewhere that after great consideration I consider myself a "Constitutional republican" (versus either a facist conservative or libertine libertarian, as the somewhat justified epithets go). Consequently, I find your diatribe ill considered and moronic for it's lack of intuition.

Instead of showing you a libertarian society (though Milton Friedman might argue Hong Kong pre 1996), I will show you a strictly conservative nation - the Taliban of Afghanistan pre Sept. 11. They conserved their religion as they saw it, they were certainly strict in doling out punishment to wrong doers, they placed no impediment on their government doing the right thing (no matter how heinous an act it might be). That's a conservative government to envy, if you want to take credit for it.

Because of the problems inherent in both undirected libertarian and conservative principles, our founders crafted a strict Constitutional document that balanced the competing needs for freedom with order. That's why this website is called FreeRepublic.com and not ConservativeRepublic.com or Democratunderground.com or whatever.

So go stuff that conservative crap down your throat, it is a flawed construct that no longer suits thinking people on this forum, and that is my point. FreeRepublic works (combines libertarian and conservative), Constitutional republican works (same balance), but conservative and libertarian both suck eggs.

331 posted on 03/13/2002 5:41:53 PM PST by FastCoyote
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