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Team picks white man mascot to make point
Greeley Tribune ^ | 10 Mar 02 | Julio Ochoa

Posted on 03/10/2002 7:27:34 AM PST by real saxophonist

Team picks white man mascot to make point

 Story By Julio Ochoa

An intramural basketball team at the University of Northern Colorado called "The Fighting Whities" is turning the tables on the Eaton mascot issue.

Led by Solomon Little Owl, director of Native American Student Services at UNC, the team chose a white man as its mascot to raise awareness and understanding of stereotypes that some cultures endure.

"The message is, let's do something that will let people see the other side of what it's like to be a mascot," Little Owl said. "I am really offended by this mascot issue, and I hope the people that support the Eaton mascot will get offended by this."

The players, made up of a mixture of American Indian, Hispanic and caucasian students, wear white jerseys with the picture of a white man in a suit on the front and the slogan "Every thang's gonna be all white!" printed beneath.

"It's not meant to be vicious, it is meant to be humorous," said Ray White, a Mohawk American Indian on the team. "It puts people in our shoes, and then we can say, 'Now you know how it is, and now you can make a judgement.' "

Judging right or wrong is hard when you don't understand how it feels to be stereotyped, White said.

"We are looking for understanding," he said. "We want change, but you can't force change."

American Indians could go through the general assembly or town meetings to try to change mascots, but the same message might not get through, White said.

"We all live in the same community and want the same things, so it is good to be standing in each other's shoes for a while," he said.

Charles Cuny, an Ogalala Lakota and member of the team, said he went to an American Indian Catholic high school with a mascot called the Red Cloud Crusaders, after a famous chief of the Lakota Indians.

The problem with Eaton's mascot is a matter of respect, he said.

"There are certain words that are accepted and certain words that are unacceptable," Cuny said. "Really a mascot is something that you look up to, and on one hand that is nice, but maybe we could go about it another way."

Having a white mascot is a way to make people more aware of American Indian issues, he said.

"We live in a politically correct society, and sometimes indians get overlooked," he said. "There are so few indians who have clout that there are a lot of things that go unsettled."


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To: Polybius
And our cruise missiles are named for an Indian weapon:


221 posted on 03/10/2002 10:43:38 AM PST by Kermit
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To: Landru
...wear white jerseys with the picture of a white man in a SUIT on the front and the slogan 'Every thang's gonna be all white!' printed beneath."

OH---I am Sooo offended!!! Sounds like a cause for a class action lawsuit.

222 posted on 03/10/2002 10:47:38 AM PST by scholar
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To: JamesWilson
Come on! You made that up! How can you have a black cracker?

Strange but true........

Atlanta Black Crackers, Negro Southern League

Negro Leagues Team Histories


223 posted on 03/10/2002 10:48:44 AM PST by Polybius
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To: piasa
Haven't these kids heard about the Celtics, the Spartans, the Crusaders and the Vikings?


How about the Fighting Irish?

224 posted on 03/10/2002 10:53:20 AM PST by Vinomori
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To: Jaidyn
You have helped me immensely! I have one more problem. My kids, three boys, are part Indian. Can they refer to themselves as Indian or should they use my ancestry which is an oleo of a little bit of everybody. Should I call them Mutts? Or Whiteys? Or Indio-Americans? Or should I just call them on time for dinner?

At the risk of getting serious for a moment--

I would tell them that they have nothing to be ashamed of in being Indian or white, and that The race that's attached to them has no meaning compared to what they do and are as individuals.

That's what the real civil rights was all about. Not the dishonest neomarxist drivel that remains.

225 posted on 03/10/2002 10:53:44 AM PST by liberalism=failure
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Hey, Luis, look at Post #223.

We're mascots. :-)

226 posted on 03/10/2002 10:55:05 AM PST by Polybius
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To: real saxophonist
I'm so offended, my feelings are really, really hurt. Devatated and distraught. I won't be able to work, somebody get me some food stamps and subsidized housing.
227 posted on 03/10/2002 10:56:03 AM PST by putupon
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To: real saxophonist
Someone nudge me and wake me up when I am suppose to be offended...k?
228 posted on 03/10/2002 11:00:22 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Kenny Bunk
Re post 219:

I like 'Ritas.

229 posted on 03/10/2002 11:00:30 AM PST by JamesWilson
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To: mille99
"The Fighting Whities".....I like it!

I like it too. It's high time we got this kind of recognition. Go team go!

230 posted on 03/10/2002 11:00:43 AM PST by Barnacle
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To: Polybius
Now that's good humor.
231 posted on 03/10/2002 11:02:26 AM PST by JamesWilson
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To: Barnacle
Darn tootin, the law of unintended consequences is about to bite some multi colored butts.
232 posted on 03/10/2002 11:04:42 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: liberalism=failure
At the risk of getting serious for a moment-- I would tell them that they have nothing to be ashamed of in being Indian ...

It has always been my impression that Indians were chosen as mascots because of their bravery--not out of disrespect. By constantly railing on this subject they perpetuate racial differences which we should have been over a-long-time-ago.

233 posted on 03/10/2002 11:12:45 AM PST by scholar
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To: real saxophonist
Hate to spoil the fun, but the official name of the Basketball team at UNC is the "Bears"". I can't find anything on the site about the Fighting Whities. I do notice that they have a great Spirit Groups (pun intended) page at http://uncbears.fansonly.com/genrel/ncol-spirit.html. The school does have an inquiry page; maybe some intrepid Freeper will submit a question about how we flattered whites can obtain Fighting whitiey jerseys...
234 posted on 03/10/2002 11:13:10 AM PST by sailor4321
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To: redlipstick
If you get an answer can you point me the way. My hubby wants to get some for him and the kids!!! I asked him if he felt "offended" and he said "H*l No , this is cool!!"
235 posted on 03/10/2002 11:21:52 AM PST by kancel
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To: uncbob
OKLAHOMA SOONERS

(yeah, the original '89 Sooners who stole a march on the Oklahoma Territory land rush were mostly white folks).

236 posted on 03/10/2002 11:28:00 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: liberalism=failure
Can you get some Freeper to make a downloadable picture in Red, White and Blue? Someone could make a lot of money here!
237 posted on 03/10/2002 11:28:07 AM PST by Blake#1
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
A future Louis Farrakhan University will pick "White Devils".

I'm sure they've already got it copyrighted.

Here are some more possibilities --

    The Hay Seeds
    The Fishbellies
    The Flat Butts
    The Ghosts
    The Goobers
    The Gomers
    The Massas
    The Wonder Breads
    The Pastyfaces
    The Palefaces
    The Moon Crickets
    The Rednecks
    The Round Eyes
    The Rubes
    The Saltines
    The Sh*tkickers
    The Hicks
    The Ahabs
    The Albinos
...and last but not least --
    The slave-owning, slave-trading, negro-lynching, negro-raping, whip-brandishing, whiskey-swilling, chitlin-eating, gun-dealing, tobacco-auctioning, tractor-pulling, sister-shagging, moon-shining, outhouse-sitting Trailer Parkers.

238 posted on 03/10/2002 11:29:00 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: redlipstick
There's nothing on the school website. I've emailed the reporter at the Greeley paper and asked him if he can provide such information....
239 posted on 03/10/2002 11:32:28 AM PST by sailor4321
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To: scholar
It has always been my impression that Indians were chosen as mascots because of their bravery--not out of disrespect. By constantly railing on this subject they perpetuate racial differences which we should have been over a-long-time-ago.

I agree. I would only add that in this day, in spite of this "offendedness" nonsense, the only group that is expected and often even required to feel shame over their race, is whites.

I expect now that little owl's PC trickery has backfired these liberals will revise their plans and say how racist it is for anyone to root for the "whities". It's inevitable as the sunrise.

240 posted on 03/10/2002 11:33:29 AM PST by liberalism=failure
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