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1 posted on 03/08/2002 1:24:34 PM PST by sarcasm
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2 posted on 03/08/2002 1:25:24 PM PST by sarcasm
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HERE'S WHAT WE CAN DO

SEND A FAX TO CONGRESS FREE Roy Beck's NumbersUSA http://www.numbersusa.org

Tell your Congressman and 2 Senators not to pursue amnesty for illegal aliens.

Please go to the above link and click on FAX CONGRESS FREE to advise Congress before they take a vote.

7 posted on 03/08/2002 1:35:26 PM PST by Be active
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You know I want to support Bush, but since he's taken office he seems to show more interest in the plight of illegal aliens than Americans. If the Republican party goes along with this, they're risking their majority status in November. More people than they think are watching.
9 posted on 03/08/2002 1:46:22 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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Link to NumbersUSA.

Equal protection under the law, anyone?

Our President has become the chief lobbyist for illegal Mexican "rights" in our country, despite the fact that lax oversight of our borders and our immigration procedures contributed to the atrocity of 9/11.

We should be asking ourselves WTF he is in such a hell-fire hurry to cram this down our throats.

10 posted on 03/08/2002 1:50:35 PM PST by Mercuria
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To: sarcasm;Sabertooth
I will sit out the next election or vote 3rd party I just can not take it anymore..the war efforet has become cover to give away America
17 posted on 03/08/2002 2:01:56 PM PST by RnMomof7
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What does he have to gain by pushing this thru? What is the END he persues? Anyone?

EBUCK

30 posted on 03/08/2002 2:14:26 PM PST by EBUCK
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Numbersusa is working on faxes now, should be available soon. RED Alert: Vote set for Tuesday.
38 posted on 03/08/2002 2:24:12 PM PST by AnotherTexasPatriot
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Bush is selling out his country.

Then again, why should he care? He and his family will always have their millions and and can afford to live the high life and not have to deal with the negative aspects of illegal immigration like Joe American Public will.

In fact, they help him and his family get even wealthier.

46 posted on 03/08/2002 2:36:19 PM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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Bush doesn't seem near as concerned about the unborn or the concerns of his republican constituents as he does about rolling out the red carpet to illegal immigrants, swallowing whole the concept of federalized education and embracing the National Endowment for the Arts. If there's a silver lining to all of this, it's that Americans now realize that we shouldn't go to sleep for the next 2.5 years while "our boy" is behind the wheel. We'll all wake up in the ditch come 2004.
53 posted on 03/08/2002 2:42:20 PM PST by Egg
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Friday, March 08, 2002 - WASHINGTON - Rep. Tom Tancredo takes credit for thwarting the Bush administration's last effort to offer partial amnesty to thousands of illegal residents

Lie. Tom did no such thing.
His grandstanding does excite certain elements, however.

94 posted on 03/08/2002 3:43:28 PM PST by PRND21
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So why aren't we all calling and faxing the WH and the Congresscritters and Senators to stop this amnesty scam? I don't care a whit if Bush wants this as a "gift" to Fox during his visit to Mexico next week! What can Bush be thinking, that we are not paying attention, perhaps? The disastrous amnesty bill must not be passed into law! My Pubbie vote is being undermined here, and I'm mad as hell and won't take it anymore! (sound familiar?)
119 posted on 03/08/2002 4:19:37 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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Why would anyone want amnesty for illegals? Those supporting it include:
1. drug cartels
2. organized crime
3. those seeking cheap labor
4. terrorist organizations
5. those wanting to harm this country
6. foreign governments burdened by surplus population and/or wanting to dump their deviants and the insane
7. those who want to reclaim areas of US for Mexico
8. those who dislike our way of life and want to change it
149 posted on 03/08/2002 4:49:39 PM PST by Dante3
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194 posted on 03/08/2002 7:50:23 PM PST by healey22
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That's it..

The straw has fallen.

202 posted on 03/08/2002 8:16:17 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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President Bush:

If you really want a Republican governor in California, you had better damn well find a way to get stymied in this effort and blame the Democrats long before November 1.

225 posted on 03/08/2002 8:47:22 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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I've gotta say it again: the topper to this whole thing is that the children of these criminal parasites will get preference over my children in education and employment.

But I'm the nazi for wanting to deport them, right?

232 posted on 03/08/2002 9:04:40 PM PST by WDG55513
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Here is the latest email alert from numbersusa.com
DATE: 5:30 p.m. 8mar02

More red alert stuff. Thanks for reading carefully and doing at least one thing.

BELOW:
1. INFO--House vote on Section 245i amnesty set for Tuesday
2. ACTION--Call talk show hosts and create a storm next few
days 3. INFO--The sneaky combination the White House is trying
4. ACTION--Keep calling, especially to District offices
5. FEEDBACK--Learn from the experience of others (your phone calls are stirring up a cloud of dust)
6. INFO--Where the White House is going

1. INFO--House vote on amnesty set for Tuesday
The House GOP leadership has caved to the White House and set a vote for the Section 245(i) amnesty next Tuesday (probably mid-day).

This is all being done so Pres. Bush can hand this to Mexican Pres. Fox as a gift when he visits there in a couple of weeks (instead of exchanging cowboy boots).

But in an apparent sign of some spine and reflecting their personal distaste for amnesties, the GOP House leadership rejected the White House desire to pass 245i without a vote by attaching it in Conference Committee to an authorization bill.

Instead, there is to be a real vote. Our allies in the House are pledged to force a roll-call vote when the amnesty comes up on the "suspension calendar" Tuesday.

That is great news because we can hold every Member accountable. We get very few chances to do that.

If you missed our Action Alert earlier this week that went into great detail about Section 245i, please see this Hot Topics page:

http://www.numbersusa.com/hottopic/index.html

Section 245i is about allowing hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens to pay $1,000 and get permanent residency.

2. ACTION--Create a national talk show storm
Everything about the White House maneuver on Section 245i is the kind of outrage that moves talk show hosts to spontaneously combust. If enough are combusting at the same time, they have been known to create enough heat to worry even presidential staffs with stratospheric popularity.

Please take a look at this hastily assembled talk show list at:

http://www.numbersusa.com/text

I have no idea whether you or I agree with anything any of these people advocate. I leave it to all of you to plant the information and fan the flames. If you know the work of any of these people, please use that knowledge to improve your chances of breaking through.

There are phone numbers for many. For many others, you will need to e-mail information.

If you know of other talk show hosts, please call them -- and send us the name and phone numbers.

3. INFO--The sneaky way the amnesty is coming up
Pay close attention to this move.

Section 245i will not be brought up by itself on Tuesday. Rather, it has been wrapped up in the visa-tracking legislation that was passed by the House in December.

You may ask, if visa-tracking already passed, how can it be brought up again? It can be brought up in as many forms as the House chooses.

The calculation by the amnesty people is that amnesty opponents will have a hard time voting against the visa-tracking legislation that is so important to getting a handle on illegal immigration.

HERE IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO REMIND MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND TALK SHOW HOSTS: If the House defeats this combination bill Tuesday, the visa-tracking bill that passed cleanly in December remains alive and awaiting Senate action.

That's why you should constantly argue that no matter what is attached to the amnesty, Members should vote against it -- even if they like the attachment. If the package can be defeated, then the good stuff can easily be brought up again in a clean bill.

4. ACTION--Keep calling, especially to District offices
Your calls the last two days have really started stirring things up inside Congress. In many cases, you were telling staffers things they hadn't learned yet, but which they were able to quickly confirm.

On Monday and Tuesday, continue burn up the Capitol office phone lines of you House Member and Senators.

This weekend, try calling the Members' offices in your area. Because most Members are home this weekend, they may have staffers in the offices who will be impressed by your concern.

Get the Capitol and home District phone numbers from our directory at:

http://www.numbersusa.com/congressinfo/

5. FEEDBACK--Learn from the experience of others
"I made fifteen calls this morning to all those you listed."
-- Fred

"I thought you might find this interesting. When I called the White House this morning to express disapproval of a 245(i) extension, I asked the comment line guy if he knew what it was. Not only did he tell me he knew all about it, but he also suggested that I contact all my representaives and take up a petition! Apparently, one of "our guys" is taking messages at the White House."
-MM

Hello!
Like a good dooby, I made my calls and was dutifully recorded or "listened to" by staff. The one exception: I had my points listed prior to calling and when I was taking a breath, the staffer said: "That's not what 245-i does!" I said then, "what do you believe 245-i does?" He replied "I'm not here to debate the issues with you" and I said, "but you have just questioned my understanding of what 245-i does and I want to know what your understanding is." I was then told, he would "pass along my comments."
-- Patti

[NumbersUSA comment: AS SOON AS WE GOT THAT E-MAIL, OUR LOBBYIST IMMEDIATELY CALLED THAT OFFICE AND MADE SURE THEY UNDERSTOOD THE TRUE WORKINGS OF 245I.)

"I just spoke with a California office and staffers tell me that 245i went through a year ago. Let me know what I can do."
-- Dave

[NumbersUSA comment: WE IMMEDIATELY CALLED THAT OFFICE AND STRAIGHTENED THEM OUT THAT A NEW AMNESTY WAS COMING UP. IT IS TRUE THAT A FOUR-MONTH AMNESTY PASSED THE HOUSE A YEAR AGO AND THEN WAS NEVER TAKEN UP BY THE SENATE WHERE THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP WANTED A ONE-YEAR OR PERMANENT 245I. IT IS VERY COMMON WHEN PEOPLE CALL CONGRESS AS A RESULT OF A NUMBERS USA ACTION ALERT THAT THEY ARE TELLING STAFFERS THINGS THEY DO NOT YET KNOW. SO BE POLITE AND PERSISTENT. IF YOU FIND THEY JUST DON'T BELIEVE YOU, TELL THEM THAT YOU WILL BE HAPPY TO GO BACK AND CHECK YOUR INFORMATION AND GET RIGHT BACK TO THEM. THAT'S A GOOD TIME TO TELL US WHAT YOU HEARD AND LET US GIVE YOU A PHONE NUMBER AND NAME FOR THEM TO CONTACT INSIDE CONGRESS TO CONFIRM YOUR INFORMATION.]

"I am calling multiple times every day to the White House and have enlisted all of my friends to do the same."
-- JOe

"Calling the two White House comment lines yesterday, I learned that both numbers do go to the same volunteers at one phone bank. I got the same person when I dialed the second number right away after the first. This did not happen during ten to fifteen days of consecutive calling in January. Despite getting the same volunteer, she was eager to take my message a second time after I explained Section 245(i) during the first call, but this cannot always be assumed although in my experience it is a consistent reaction. Almost without exception, the volunteers I talk with are sympathic and often outraged when they learn the facts about our immigration policies...if only the American people knew the facts we know."
-- Fred

[The White House numbers are: 202-456-1111 and 202-456-1414]

One thing you might want to pass along although callers will quickly learn it: Call early, before 8:00 AM Pacific time, or your wait will be long.
-- Fred

6. INFO--Where the White House is going
Our lobbyists have been in and out of congressional and Administration offices all week picking up information and trying to hold off some of the damage. The situation described above and in this section are the best they know it right now:

Democratic congressional leaders seem to be letting the Republicans fight this one out.

Many of the Republican congressional leaders are unhappy with the "equivalent of war" pressure they are getting from the White House to give an amnesty they don't like. While they have asked that there be no more amnesty pushes, the White House has made it clear that there may be one amnesty after another backed up on their agenda.

Bush and Fox are apparently hoping to announce in two weeks that they have agreed to some kind of giant agriculture guest worker program that will allow illegal aliens to join up and then be allowed to move toward U.S. citizenship after three years or so.

As you may already know, Bush told the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce this week that some kind of amnesty was a top priority for him this year.

This action network is all over the map politically. Many of you have no trouble understanding that this President would stand on the side of massive population growth and cheap labor for the benefit of corporate interests. But others of you are like Rep. Tom Tancredo who said on the floor of the House yesterday that he thanks God every day that George Bush is the Commander in Chief. Nonetheless, he said, Mr. Bush's desire for friendship with Pres. Fox is "increasing our own vulnerability to terrorism while simultaneously rewarding people for violating our laws."

The President has extremely high approval ratings right now, but we must not allow his staff to believe that means he can force extremely unpopular measures like amnesty down our throats.

Thanks for every little and big thing you are able to do the next few days.

This is the latest email alert from numbersusa.com

233 posted on 03/08/2002 9:05:09 PM PST by healey22
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It sounds like America may not last more than twenty years.
242 posted on 03/08/2002 9:33:03 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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Oh, spirit of President Eisenhower, what would you do about illegal immigration? What's that you say, Operation Wetback II? Great idea!
273 posted on 03/08/2002 11:11:46 PM PST by usadave
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I know, first-hand, the heartache caused by illegal immigration. My beautiful daughter ~ young, bright, talented, and college-bound ~ became involved with a young Mexican opportunist, with 14 siblings and many, many aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, cousins, who are all illegal aliens and are all unskilled, uneducated, illiterate, non-English-speaking, and nearly uneducable. They laughed at the fact that still more of their family members "made it" across the border after the WTC tragedy. They have no values, morals, ethics, or standard of living ~ and instead they know how to steal SSN's, how to obtain false documents, how to evade the law, and when and where to change their names. My daughter lives in poverty, her future in the balance, our family torn apart, and my heart cries to think that this large group of people, numbering in the HUNDREDS from one family (not to mention friends back in Mexico whom they constantly encourage to "come on over"), could be granted amnesty ~ and just what would that change? None will ever make the slightest contribution to our society, none will become trained or skilled, and none will hold a loyalty to a country which is not their own. What could be more pathetic? I AM NOT ALONE. I found that there are COUNTLESS everyday Americans who have had the same or similar experiences ~ with their own painful stories ~ all because of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. THIS is domestic terror at its worst. PLEASE STOP THE MADNESS!
276 posted on 03/08/2002 11:39:06 PM PST by HeartbrokenMom
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