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Tancredo doubts he can block amnesty-extension bill
Denver Post ^ | March 8, 2002 | Bill McAllister

Posted on 03/08/2002 1:24:33 PM PST by sarcasm

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To: PRS
ROFLOL, what a great picture! They could almost pass for twins. LOL
381 posted on 03/09/2002 8:08:38 AM PST by Eddie Haskell
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To: Arleigh
If Mexicans are such hard-working people, why isn't Mexico a paradise? If Mexicans are such hard-working people, shouldn't they stay home and improve their homeland? If the Mexican economy is so vibrant, why are 18 MILLION of them in the USA cleaning toilets?

Try to use your head, please.

Uh no one said that Mexico is a paradise now. Looks like Mexicans are coming to where they can make the most money and find the most opportunities and that is the US.

Says a lot about the vitality of the US economy.

BTW, what is wrong trying to slove the problem of the Mexican economy?

What is it, don't you want to use your head?

382 posted on 03/09/2002 8:08:59 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
SARCASM: The minimal amount taxes that they will pay will never cover the cost of the services that they will demand. Get ready for a tax increase if this is passed
DANE:Really? You are the one who is naive and alarmist, IMHO.

Again, do your homework before you post. Sarcasm is 100% right. Typical Mexican immigrant - legal or illegal - has a 7th grade education. Typical Hispanic woman has 3-point-something children. Do you think that such a family, no matter how hardworking, will begin to pay the costs of schooling, roads, healthcare, pollution control, policing, foodstamps, EITC and other social services they consume on minimum wage? In California, it is estimated the net cost per year of a LEGAL immigrant is over $2,500.00

We are importing poverty for the benefit of Big Business. Elites get benefit of little brown serfs, while the social costs are dumped on the taxpayer. This is no different than a large corporation dumping untreated toxic waste on public lands in the name of "competitiveness."

383 posted on 03/09/2002 8:11:12 AM PST by Arleigh
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To: goldstategop
Don't give em ideas like that! :-)
384 posted on 03/09/2002 8:13:48 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Arleigh
We are importing poverty for the benefit of Big Business. Elites get benefit of little brown serfs, while the social costs are dumped on the taxpayer. This is no different than a large corporation dumping untreated toxic waste on public lands in the name of "competitiveness."

Uh don't forget farmers in your anti-business rant. You wouldn't have a whole host other vegetables or food if it wasn't for their labor.

385 posted on 03/09/2002 8:15:07 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
DANE SAYS:Looks like Mexicans are coming to where they can make the most money and find the most opportunities and that is the US.

TRANSLATION: Mexicans are colonizing and exploiting a wealthy land for their own purposes.

DANE SAYS: Says a lot about the vitality of the US economy.

Says a lot about the greed of the internationalist elites and how afraid the typical American is to be branded "racist" or "mean-spirited." Propaganda works.

DANE SAYS: BTW, what is wrong trying to slove the problem of the Mexican economy?

Nothing, if you're a Mexican.

DANE SAYS: don't you want to use your head?

I am using my head. You're the one who is showing the same sort of internationalist logic that caused Denmark to roll over and play dead when the Nazis came to town. After all, the Germans were hard-working people, and the Third Reich had a vibrant economy, too...

386 posted on 03/09/2002 8:17:46 AM PST by Arleigh
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To: Vallandigham
The posts of one of the 3 dissenters would pass for press releases of MEChA,

O'Reilly had one of the clowns from Mecha on his program last night. This moron was rambling on about fighting for his people's self-determination, some garbage about the Southwest, and denying that his cronies at Berkley aren't thugs. Bill had to drag this out of him. I would love to have seen Sean Hannity have a go at him, lol.

387 posted on 03/09/2002 8:18:37 AM PST by Eddie Haskell
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To: Arleigh
TRANSLATION: Mexicans are colonizing and exploiting a wealthy land for their own purposes.

Translation from a hundred years ago from anti-immigrant forces,

Irish are colonizing and exploiting a wealthy land for their own purposes

388 posted on 03/09/2002 8:19:58 AM PST by Dane
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To: Twodees
You got that right. In many Georgia counties, Mexicans make up five to ten percent of the population. In a few, they make up as much as twenty percent of the population. However, ten years ago, there wasn't a county in the state that had a Mexican (Hispanic) population greater than four percent. Now, this isn't because they're legal. Most of them are illegal and have broken our borders. Furthermore, we have a governor who has asked President Bush for more illegals. He claims that they've kept the economy alive. How naieve, doesn't he realize that it's a time bomb waiting to explode?
389 posted on 03/09/2002 8:20:17 AM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: Dane
Uh don't forget farmers in your anti-business rant. You wouldn't have a whole host other vegetables or food if it wasn't for their labor.

So you're saying cheap food makes it OK to condone lawbreaking, exploit others and undermine our country's culture and heritage? I'll bet food was nice and cheap when we had slavery. Why not go all the way and advocate a repeal of the Emancipation Proclamation?

390 posted on 03/09/2002 8:21:01 AM PST by Arleigh
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To: Dane
BTW, what is wrong trying to slove the problem of the Mexican economy?

We do not have the authority to solve the problems in Mexico, it is a sovreign country with it's own laws and economy. Mexicans need to change their own political system and economic system ---unless we declare war and take that country over, there is no way we can do that.

391 posted on 03/09/2002 8:22:16 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Eddie Haskell
I'd love to see Mexican squatters set up camp on his Crawford ranch

Under Mexican law, squatters have rights. If they build an umbrella community on that ranch, the Mexican government can take the land from the landowner and redistribute it to the squatters. That's how it's done in Mexico ----Bush seems to be under the control of Fox so maybe that could happen.

392 posted on 03/09/2002 8:24:32 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Arleigh
So you're saying cheap food makes it OK to condone lawbreaking, exploit others and undermine our country's culture and heritage? I'll bet food was nice and cheap when we had slavery. Why not go all the way and advocate a repeal of the Emancipation Proclamation?

So you want "expensive" food to keep the culture pure, when cheap food is one of the things that keeps a civilization thriving.

BTW, where are the rustlers who go into Mexico and rustle up people to work in the fields? They come here voluntarily.

393 posted on 03/09/2002 8:25:50 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
Irish are colonizing and exploiting a wealthy land for their own purposes.

A) Any migration that gave us the Kennedy clan, the Shrivers, and Tip O'Neil certainly wasn't all good.

B)Irish did not maintain property in Ireland, commute back and forth from Ireland, vote in Irish elections, advocate for dual Irish/American citizenship, and otherwise treat living in America as a very long commute to their day job.

C) The Irish government did not adopt as official policy that its duty is to represent the needs of the Irish living overseas.

D) No Irish student group, to my knowledge, has claimed that America stole Irish land and has vowed to drive Americans back out of said land by force of violence.

394 posted on 03/09/2002 8:27:19 AM PST by Arleigh
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To: FITZ
We do not have the authority to solve the problems in Mexico, it is a sovreign country with it's own laws and economy

And a two thousand mile border with the US.

395 posted on 03/09/2002 8:27:27 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
a vibrant economy south of the border?

There should be a vibrant economy south of the border ---Mexico is a very oil rich and has other vast natural resources and lots of millionaires and billionaires. Because of being one of the most corrupt nations, it doesn't have a vibrant economy. Fixing their own problems would be the obvious answer, exporting all it's people and demanding the US take care of them isn't.

396 posted on 03/09/2002 8:29:52 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Dane
So you want "expensive" food to keep the culture pure, when cheap food is one of the things that keeps a civilization thriving.

You really are a moron, aren't you? Expensive food is NOT a problem in the United States. In case you haven't noticed, OBESITY is the Number One health problem in America. When is the last time you saw a starving American on TV?

I am getting bored dealing with a lightweight "thinker" such as yourself. Gotta go take the bread out of the oven and take a walk before it rains.

397 posted on 03/09/2002 8:30:11 AM PST by Arleigh
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To: Dane
Yes ---which is why Bush should take charge and tell Fox it is time that changes in that corrupt country be made. Mexico has been nothing but a problem ever since they became independent from Spain. The Spaniards ran it far better and during that time, the people stayed in Mexico.
398 posted on 03/09/2002 8:32:07 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Arleigh
Some actually did, just like a "few" Mexicans do now, but most of the Irish, Poles, Jews, and Italians assimilated, just like a lot of Mexicans want to.

The anti-bilingual education intitive that passed by a 2/3rd's majority in Califronia won with such a big margin because of hispanic support. They want their kids to learn English.

399 posted on 03/09/2002 8:32:09 AM PST by Dane
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To: Arleigh
You really are a moron, aren't you? Expensive food is NOT a problem in the United States. In case you haven't noticed, OBESITY is the Number One health problem in America. When is the last time you saw a starving American on TV?

Oh yeah civilizations thrived when food was scarce and expensive./sarcasm

400 posted on 03/09/2002 8:33:59 AM PST by Dane
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