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**FIND STORY** Orange Co. Red Cross denys kids singing "America the Beautiful"
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Posted on 03/08/2002 12:55:28 PM PST by PRO 1

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To: rface
ah....good point.
41 posted on 03/08/2002 1:52:06 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: Askel5
liddy dole... bad, for America.
43 posted on 03/08/2002 2:02:27 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: PRO 1;
Write John Gibson, Fox News, at MYWORD@FOXNEWS.COM.

Do it now! He just covered this on Fox News with his "My Word" editorial and is planning on covering this idiot Anti-American behavior on his Monday show! He said on air that he's expecting his e-mail-box to be flooded with notes!

BTW, he called the American Red Cross "Bolshevik"! I loved it! GO, JOHN!!!!!!!!

44 posted on 03/08/2002 2:04:37 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: seamole
Bumping to keep an eye on this one.
45 posted on 03/08/2002 2:05:43 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: rface
Send bulk mail to the press and the congress NOW!..and often

We MUST spread this story, boycott hge Red Cross and inundate them and everyone you know with protest over this.

Hannity, Rush Reagan, everyone must get on this one.

It is the most blatant anti-american response from an American group in my lifetime.

46 posted on 03/08/2002 2:09:01 PM PST by porgygirl
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To: LibertarianLiz
This subject is of immediate, urgent interest to me.

My mother is a nurse, and she is among the nominees for one of ten Golden Circle Awards to be presented Sunday by the Orange County Red Cross. The awards "recognize volunteers for their dedication to delivering services to those in need throughout Orange County". My mother has been a volunteer since 1982 in Disaster Health Services. The awards will be presented during the Red Cross' annual volunteer recognition luncheon from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. Sunday at the Hyatt Regency in Irvine.

Any further information and documentation that anyone can obtain would be highly appreciated. If for some reason you can't post it, please Freepmail me.

47 posted on 03/08/2002 2:19:35 PM PST by dpwiener
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To: LibertarianLiz
Anyway, it seems the Red Cross of Orange County believes the Declaration of Independence to be an offensive document.

They're right. I hear that King George was very offended by the document.

-PJ

48 posted on 03/08/2002 2:19:50 PM PST by Political Junkie Too
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To: veronica
And she simply could not bring herself to defend the US Constitution either, which she said was a 'political document.'

Did she try to claim first amendment protections?

-PJ

49 posted on 03/08/2002 2:20:56 PM PST by Political Junkie Too
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To: PRO 1
Hopefully Michael Savage will discuss this on his show. And to think this happened in "so-called conservative" Orange County CA. Has anybody been there lately? I left that area almost 4 years ago. The more appropriate name for that place is "Occupied Orange County"
50 posted on 03/08/2002 2:22:14 PM PST by jragan2001
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To: porgygirl
I am calling the Red Cross to let them know that I am offended by their actions and lack of actions. They still have not protested the killing of our solider after being captured. If " America the Beautiful" MAY offend, maybe they will care that they DO offend many.
51 posted on 03/08/2002 2:23:58 PM PST by bfree
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To: PRO 1
I'm still waiting for the Red Cross to complain about the way Danny Pearl was treated by his captors. The silence is deafening. What is wrong with them?
53 posted on 03/08/2002 2:29:32 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: StriperSniper
Lynn Howes, director of public affairs at the American Red Cross of Orange County

lhowes@oc-redcross.org


54 posted on 03/08/2002 2:30:10 PM PST by Timesink
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To: PRO 1; Boyd; Askel5; Wallaby; BigM; Squantos; Jeff Head; T'wit; Utah Girl; Jim Robinson
Here's what I just e-mailed to John Gibson of FoxNews.

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Mr. Gibson - LOVED your "My Word" editorial on your show this afternoon. I especially revelled in the "bolshevik" comment, which is probably more apropos than many people would be willing to admit or understand.

The fact that the Red Cross symbol was originally a simple reverse of the cross (representing the Holy Roman Empire!!!) found on the Swiss flag is very telling about the origins of the organization and the goals of its founders.

Check this story out (copied for you below with its source URL). You may wish to get this writer/historian on your Monday show. (John Hutchinson is on faculty at Simon Frasier University. His contact information found via the university's search function is: john_hutchinson@sfu.ca Phone: 1 604 291 4306)

(My name here), loyal FoxNews viewer for several years now
(My town here)
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http://www.sfu.ca/mediapr/sfnews/1996/May9/redcross.html

May 9, 1996 Vol . 6, No. 1
SFU historian writes Red Cross story
By Bruce Mason

The Red Cross - perhaps the world's most recognized symbol and largest organized charity - is rarely scrutinized. Despite more than 125 years of rapid growth and transformation, its image of universal benevolence remains remarkably unchanged.

Now, the first objective and critical study, Champions of Charity: War and the Rise of the Red Cross by SFU historian John Hutchinson - has been published revealing previously untold dark chapters and how the intentions of its founders were compromised soon after its inception at the Geneva Convention of 1863. Almost 100 posters, photos and postcards illuminate this revealing new perspective on organized charity, war and the state.

"We knew the Red Cross existed, and that its existence was a good thing, but we took it and its goodness entirely for granted," notes Hutchinson, who spent a decade researching and writing the book.

"In fact, Red Cross societies aided and abetted the militarization of charity before and during World War I. The leaders of most national societies enthusiastically prepared for whatever war service armies and government wished them to perform," he explains.

In "Champions of Charity", Hutchinson weaves together tumultuous events and colorful, larger-than-life figures - from the birth of the Red Cross to its remarkable growth and rapid change before and after World War I.

During work on an earlier book on revolutionary Russia, Hutchinson first uncovered criticism of the Red Cross. He also developed skills that he would need to gather information for a history on the organization - unacknowledged by its own literature - that was little known.

Denied free access to the archives of the International Committee of the Red Cross in Geneva, he found the details for a rich historical narrative of the first 50-plus years of the organization's history in Europe, the U.S. and Japan. And he discovered the diverse roles played by national societies: the precisely organized Germans, the chaotic and factionalized French, the military efficiency of the Japanese and the hard selling patriotism of the Americans.

"The original founders had a grand vision to make war less barbaric through a display of Christian charity by neutral volunteer nurses who would assist and aid wounded and dying soldiers," reports Hutchinson.

"However, within decades, Red Cross societies had become wartime propagandists who issued military-style uniforms to members," he says. "They were used to efficiently recycle wounded soldiers back into the front lines and raise funds which enabled governments to spend more on war."

Hutchinson was surprised to discover that one early critic of the idea of the Red Cross was Florence Nightingale, who feared that it "would render war more easy." She refused an invitation to help found a society in England.

Hutchinson uncovered a prominent American who was sentenced to 30 months in jail for criticizing the organization. The sanctity of the Red Cross is driven home in one poster of the Stars and Stripes and the Red Cross flag with the caption, "Loyalty to One Means Loyalty to Both."

And he investigates the mass involvement of women on the home front, the emergence of civilian enthusiasm and patriotism and the search for avenues of continued growth in peace time.

"Thanks to "tainted blood" scandals in France and Canada, the Red Cross will likely never again be regarded as a sacred cow," says Hutchinson who intends to write a second volume on the Red Cross and international health.

55 posted on 03/08/2002 2:35:06 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: norton
[The Red Cross] is the same international organization that allows the Red Crescent (Muslim) to join the organization but refuses to recognize Mogen David (Israeli version) because of (oops) politics.

Since a crimson Star of David is missing from this flagstaff, it becomes perfectly clear what single global sector the American Red Cross has embraced as its "international buddy."

No wonder the Red Cross cannot allow the non-Muslim lyrics of "God Bless America" to insult the Islamic sensibilities of its twin sister organization in the charity game. The Koran specifically forbids these "God" references to any name but Allah.


56 posted on 03/08/2002 2:37:15 PM PST by henbane
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To: henbane
CONTACTS:
Orange County Red Cross
714-481-5300, 5377, 5385
Ms Johnson's pager 714-268-3724
CEO-George Chitty
They are getting hit hard, phones are ringing off the hook, voice mails are loaded.
to e-mail go to this page:http://www.oc-redcross.org/
57 posted on 03/08/2002 2:46:08 PM PST by grammymoon
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To: grammymoon
PS: I got through twice.
Spoke to her email once and to three other co-conspiritors.
Gave them all quite an ear full. My question was "Do her superiors support this?"
They are all copping pleas.
58 posted on 03/08/2002 2:48:51 PM PST by grammymoon
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To: PRO 1
I just FReeped their email. These people need to be inumdated with our protests.
59 posted on 03/08/2002 2:49:26 PM PST by clintonh8r
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To: PRO 1
I have already written John Gibson (Fox News - The BIG Story) and asked him to put the Orange County Red Cross interview as a link on his site.

I checked other news sources and as of the last half hour, no links to news stories yet on this subject.

60 posted on 03/08/2002 2:53:45 PM PST by Cindy
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