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To: FreeReign
"I give this example: People who go to church on Sunday instead of reading a scientific journal during that same period of time have opted for God's knowlegde over man's knowledge. "

The pomposity and arrogance drips from your words... to assume one has no faith in God because he's a scientist, what are you, a Moslem or something? How backwards to assume man has no knowledge worth knowing... do you think God gave us intellect for no other reason than to read the bible? Should we ignore scientific journals and the pursuit of reason that will lead to a cure for cancer because, in your mind this doesn't glorify the Lord to your satisfaction?

Too many of you modern day Pharisees confuse having "God's knowledge" with "knowing the mind of God." I don't know of a scientist walking the earth with that level of hubris.

296 posted on 03/16/2002 1:51:18 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Harrison Bergeron
"I give this example: People who go to church on Sunday instead of reading a scientific journal during that same period of time have opted for God's knowlegde over man's knowledge. "

The pomposity and arrogance drips from your words... to assume one has no faith in God because he's a scientist, what are you, a Moslem or something? How backwards to assume man has no knowledge worth knowing... do you think God gave us intellect for no other reason than to read the bible? Should we ignore scientific journals and the pursuit of reason that will lead to a cure for cancer because, in your mind this doesn't glorify the Lord to your satisfaction?

Pomposity and arrogance first originated from your words about f.Christian. I simply called you on it and treated you as you treated f.Christian and his belief and perceptions of God's knowledge. Apearently you don't like that do you.

Now on to your name calling filled judgement of me. Nowhere did I say that man has no knowledge worth knowing. I simply gave an example of what many non hubris people do -- go to church for an hour each week -- and explained that during that one hour, they are opting to spend time using their perceptions, gaining the knowledge of God over spending time using their perceptions, gaining the knowledge of science or objective reason. I never said that believing the knowledge of one -- religion or science -- excludes believing the knowledge of the other and I never said that one can prove the full knowledge of God as they attempt to gain the knowledge of God just as one can never prove the full knowledge of objective reason as they attempt tp gain the knowledge of objective reason. Just look at all the above cr*p your judgement reads into my above statement and how it differs from what I believe.

I'm an evolutionist. I believe in the reliability of the Paleontology of the stratographic record and have argued such here on this forum. My education is in Geology. I believe in teaching evolutionary science in science class and creationism in religion classes. However, I also believe in treating people who attempt to get their base of reality solely through faith with respect, and I treat them no differently then I treat people who attempt to get their reality solely through objective reasoning and I defy you to prove that one of these people has any less hubris than the other. Yet in your "perceptive" judgement. f.Christian has more hubris then you and I'm a whole bunch of names and some kind of science hater.

HAHaaaaaaaa, burn all the science journals, teach creationism in public schools, Bwahaaaa -- yeah that's me. </appropriate tag>

Too many of you modern day Pharisees confuse having "God's knowledge" with "knowing the mind of God." I don't know of a scientist walking the earth with that level of hubris.

Ahh, more names from you. Aren't you able to let the logic and judgement of your words stand on their own merit without insult?

Neither f.Cristian in his quoted statement nor I in any statement, have said we have God's full knowledge. We only refer to God's knowledge as the words or teachings of God and our preceptions of what we think it is. You seem to take us out of context to meet your own needs.

Let me ask you this relevant question: Do you feel that you are fully aware of objective reason, and if you are not, why are your opinions filled with any less hubris than f.Christians perceptions on the knowledge of God?

298 posted on 03/16/2002 5:42:02 PM PST by FreeReign
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