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To: Elijah27
You said..."The Creationist framework does indeed have such scientific data"
First we must set up some guidelines...What do you concider scientific data?
As for much in the Bible being "extremely accurate historically"...Hmmmm....where in ancient Egyptian texts are Jewish slaves mentioned, much less their exodus from slavery? No place. Where is the acheological evidence of the Tower of Babel..Noah's Ark?
Perhaps the reason that the archeological data matches what the Bible says is that the stories were written after the fact? Remember that even the oldest "copies" of the Old Testament are still much much younger than the actual events they portray.
Oldcats
271 posted on 03/13/2002 8:04:30 AM PST by oldcats
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To: oldcats
You said..."The Creationist framework does indeed have such scientific data" First we must set up some guidelines...What do you concider scientific data?

The evidence of creation, which is the exact evidence that evolutionists use. The study of plants, animals, geology, astronomy, nuclear physics, etc., all contain data which are used by scientists.

As for much in the Bible being "extremely accurate historically"...Hmmmm....where in ancient Egyptian texts are Jewish slaves mentioned, much less their exodus from slavery? No place.

The 18 December 1995 edition of Time magazine had on the front cover a picture of Moses holding a slab of stone, on which are the Ten Commandments, with the question splashed across the centre of the page asking, ‘IS THE BIBLE FACT OR FICTION’.

The article claims that there are

‘parts of the Old Testament where the evidence is contradictory or still absent, including slavery in Egypt, the existence of Moses, the Exodus and Joshua’s military conquest of the Holy Land … . Kathleen Kenyon, who excavated at Jericho for six years, found no evidence of destruction at that time’ (p. 54).

In fact, she claims that Jericho was uninhabited in 1400 BC, the Biblical date for the Exodus.

‘When the material is analysed in the light of our present knowledge, it becomes clear that there is a complete gap both on the tell and in the tombs between c.1580 BC and c.1400 BC.’
The expression ‘at that time’ is extremely significant. The fact is that there is plenty of evidence for slavery in Egypt, the existence of Moses, the Exodus and Joshua’s military conquest of the Holy Land. At Jericho, Professor Garstang uncovered toppled walls and a thick layer of ash all over the tell which denoted a fire that had been deliberately lit.

‘The outer wall suffered most, its remains falling down the slope … . Traces of intense fire are plain to see, including reddened masses of brick, cracked stones, charred timbers and ashes. Houses alongside the wall were found burnt to the ground, their roofs fallen upon the domestic pottery within.’

But it was not at the time archaeologists had allocated to the event.

‘It had been believed in the earlier excavations that the defensive walls of the Late Bronze Age town had been discovered, and that they had been destroyed by earthquake and fire. It became clear in the course of the recent excavations that these walls had been mistakenly identified. They actually belonged to the Early Bronze Age.’
From the information revealed in 1 Kings 6:1, the date of the Exodus can be calculated. It says, ‘And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel had come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel, in the month Ziv, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD’.

Most historians agree that Solomon ascended the throne about 970 BC.4 His 4th year would be 966 BC, and 480 years before that would be about 1446 BC. According to the traditional dates accepted by most archaeologists, that would be during the rule of the 18th dynasty of Egypt.

Excerpt of "Searching for Moses", an article by David Down, Field Archeologist

Where is the acheological evidence of the Tower of Babel..

The Greek historian Herodotus (5th century BC), saw it on his way through Babylon, and described it as having eight levels, and standing about 20 modern stories high. The internet and a local library are at your disposal. Feel free to double-check. As a side-note, the Tower of Babel is an excellent story for how different languages came to be.

Noah's Ark?

There are numerous reports relating to the ark that you can choose from; some more reliable than others. However, in absence of an actual decaying ark, using the Bible as the guide, John Woodmorappe wrote a book titled: "Noah's Ark: A Feasibility Study" that provides detailed scientific answers to questions people such as yourself have about the ark.

Perhaps the reason that the archeological data matches what the Bible says is that the stories were written after the fact? Remember that even the oldest "copies" of the Old Testament are still much much younger than the actual events they portray. Oldcats

Are you serious? ALL history is written after the fact. Duh.

273 posted on 03/13/2002 9:45:36 AM PST by Elijah27
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