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To: sarasmom
Please understand. I am not reacting to anything MEANINGFUL that any veteran has to say. I'm simply dismissing in a (yes, it's true) flippant manner the suggestion that veterans have a monopoly on understanding.

Tell me that any wife, sibling or parent that has lost a loved one in harm's way doesn't understand. They do.

I have not seen the current film "We Were Soldiers" yet, but according to one review I read, this film is striking in the way it portrays the reaction of the survivors of soldiers lost in combat. They say, almost unanimously "we knew it might come to this, and we feel he made this sacrifice in the cause of his country, and we are content."

I DO believe that is the way the families of these brave men who have died in this battle will react--I'd be shocked to hear any of them complain. But it is a solemn and sobering thing to realize that even as we speak, one of our country's finest might be paying the ultimate price for our freedom.

It should make us that much more resolved, that these shall not have died in vain.

Although you'll never hear a single simpering lefty ever express it in this way, the true ignomy and disgrace of the Vietnam conflict was that the sacrifice of those 50,000 plus dead became meaningless because this country lost its soul, or rather, allowed the most cowardly, craven and despicable among us, who never had souls to begin with, to call the shots.

I know things are different now. All I can hope is that the infidels like Tom Daschle are taken to task for the insult heaped upon our Commander in Chief.

33 posted on 03/05/2002 5:00:22 PM PST by Illbay
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To: Illbay
I read several of your posts and I did not get the impression you were anything but a concerned citizen.What I was trying to point out to you was that the deaths of US servicemen are not the same personal losses everyone suffers in life.Nor should they ever be.

All of us will die.There is a difference in how and why people die.I will gladly die of old age, if I can, as would anyone.But I would ask on behalf of those who die in war,that you understand their deaths are felt beyond their family and friends.And that their sacrifice is truly that,and not an error someone might have made.

At some point, you must allow that the warriors have a right to grieve thir own.Those who risk thier lives for us all must be allowed their own rules of grief and judgement.It is a very exclusive club,by design.The dues are steep.If you have not paid the price,do not expect entree.Members do not recruit.

37 posted on 03/05/2002 6:12:06 PM PST by sarasmom
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To: Illbay
The deaths of some 50,000 Americans in VN were not in vain.

These individuals took a righteous stand when they chose to honor and sustain the law of the land rather than run off to Canada while their countrymen bled and died amidst circumstances which were anything but clear and well-defined.

It will be well with them when they one day stand before their Heavenly Father under whose hand this choice land was established to serve as the base of operations for His work on earth in these latter days.

And great men whom we both revere as Prophets, Seers, and Revelators on many occasions have said as much....

59 posted on 03/05/2002 9:30:34 PM PST by tracer
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